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[Strongpoint]

Well, he was on the list of passengers. It doesn't guarantee that he was on board. But it is very probable.

BTW, it may not be Putin's order but a plain, simple revenge from someone in the Russian Air Force.

[Lord Shonus]

I wouldn't be surprised if some Russian Air Force pilot was looking for revenge, but the quick media response tastes like a pre-planned event to me. As if they had the story ready before the plane went down.

[Frumple]

I mean, one of the things folks seem to be noting is the region in question had one of putin's mansions or whatever in it... and it had AA defenses. It's apparently a possibility putin basically personally had the man knocked out the air with a SAM hit, heh.

'Bout the only thing surprising about it is how blatant it was, and that it took this long to happen, though...

[martinuzz]

It coincides rather well with the official replacement of Sergej Surovikin as head of the aerospace forces just yesterday.
He was accused of treason and has not seen or heard from again since the Wagner mutiny.

I wonder what will become of all those Wagner troops in Africa if their leader and sponsor is gone.

[Strongpoint]

Looks like both Prigozhin and Utkin, Wagner's second in command are dead. They are were morons flying in the same plane like that

[martinuzz]

Another plane owned by Prigozhin just landed in Moscow's Ofstayevo business airport.
It turned around after taking off from Moscow as well.

[Strongpoint]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1694401008326123679

New York Post chooses... hm... interesting words.

[martinuzz]

Note that New York Post is a conservative gossip / entertainment tabloid in no way affiliated with or comparable with an actual newspaper like the New York Times.

I think Washington has a equivalent, where the Washington Post is the actual newspaper, and the Washington Times is the tabloid haha

[Strongpoint]

I am disappointed that there is no "If you are watching this it means I am dead" video from Prigozhin(

[Frumple]

I mean, with as remarkably stupid as the man proved to be, it wouldn't be surprising if the guy hadn't set up any kind of dead man's switch of that nature.

Reality doesn't have to write its characters with an eye for verisimilitude or competence... in some ways it's for the better, probably, but on the other hand it makes a lot of things much more banal than they could be.

[martinuzz]

His dead man switch could be Russia losing all influence in Africa, as Wagner troops join whichever islamic terror group pays better.

Edit: some Wagner Telegram channels are already considering annother armed march on Moscow, full aware that stopping halfway is not an option.

[Loud Whispers]

Didn't take long for the high effort shitposting to finish

[Strongpoint]

His dead man switch could be Russia losing all influence in Africa, as Wagner troops join whichever islamic terror group pays better.

Edit: some Wagner Telegram channels are already considering annother armed march on Moscow, full aware that stopping halfway is not an option.

They have no more heavy weaponry, top 2 and several other members of their leadership dead, there is no surprise factor.

Don't count on it.

Most likely fate of Wagner mercenaries is being absorbed by various other Russian PMC. Mercs are mercs

[Ganondworf]

I can't believe how stupid Prigozhin was, if this story is anywhere near true. I mean, to do all the stuff he did in the past he did not have to be highly intelligent, but I always thought him to be quite cunning.

[hector13]

He’s been criticizing military leadership in a country known for military “mishaps”, as well as high profile people falling out of windows.

Whatever goodwill he has with Putin ended after his… I don’t even think you can call fit a rebellion. Anyone wanting him out of the way this has tacit approval to accidentally shoot down his plane.

I don’t think I’m alone in wondering what actually took it so long.