Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  
Pages: 1 ... 25 26 [27] 28 29

Author Topic: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness  (Read 24933 times)

Random_Dragon

  • Bay Watcher
  • Psycho Bored Dragon
    • View Profile
Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #390 on: March 26, 2023, 11:59:08 pm »

Logged
On DF Wiki · On DFFD

"Hey idiots, someone hacked my account to call you all idiots! Wasn't me you idiots!" seems to stretch credulity a bit.

King Zultan

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #391 on: March 27, 2023, 01:43:10 am »

Oh god I'm surrounded by robots made from flesh, I bet they're even powered by blood, OH GOD THE HORROR!
Logged
The Lawyer opens a briefcase. It's full of lemons, the justice fruit only lawyers may touch.
Make sure not to step on any errant blood stains before we find our LIFE EXTINGUSHER.
but anyway, if you'll excuse me, I need to commit sebbaku.
Quote from: Leodanny
Can I have the sword when you’re done?

Loud Whispers

  • Bay Watcher
  • They said we have to aim higher, so we dug deeper.
    • View Profile
    • I APPLAUD YOU SIRRAH
Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #392 on: March 28, 2023, 05:46:38 pm »

I'm surrounded by robots made by the Welsh, it's not that bad

lemon10

  • Bay Watcher
  • Citrus Master
    • View Profile
Logged
And with a mighty leap, the evil Conservative flies through the window, escaping our heroes once again!
Because the solution to not being able to control your dakka is MOAR DAKKA.

That's it. We've finally crossed over and become the nation of Da Orky Boyz.

KittyTac

  • Bay Watcher
  • Impending Catsplosion. [PREFSTRING:aloofness]
    • View Profile
Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #394 on: April 02, 2023, 08:57:43 am »

https://chat.lmsys.org/

ChatGPT clone with no real moderation, easy to jailbreak with most things from https://www.jailbreakchat.com/, try prompts until one works.
Logged
Don't trust this toaster that much, it could be a villain in disguise.
Mostly phone-posting, sorry for any typos or autocorrect hijinks.

King Zultan

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #395 on: April 03, 2023, 12:48:17 am »

What exactly does jailbreaking do in this context?
Logged
The Lawyer opens a briefcase. It's full of lemons, the justice fruit only lawyers may touch.
Make sure not to step on any errant blood stains before we find our LIFE EXTINGUSHER.
but anyway, if you'll excuse me, I need to commit sebbaku.
Quote from: Leodanny
Can I have the sword when you’re done?

TamerVirus

  • Bay Watcher
  • Who cares
    • View Profile
Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #396 on: April 03, 2023, 10:16:32 am »

What exactly does jailbreaking do in this context?
Most LLM models have a soft filter trained so that it will refuse to output text related to certain unsavory topics (sex, racism, for example. Or like, how to make a pipe bomb), so if you ask the LLm 'Ayy bb wan sum fuk' you'll usually get an 'I'm sorry, I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave.' response.

Through various methods of promptsmithing and jailbreaking, you can get the AI to output the 'dangerous text' that it normally avoids/ refuse to output. The DAN method (Do Anything Now) is probably best known jailbreak for ChatGPT.
Logged
What can mysteriously disappear can mysteriously reappear
*Shakes fist at TamerVirus*

jipehog

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #397 on: April 03, 2023, 12:40:41 pm »

Simply put you can get past its safety checks.  Then you can ask anything from what the best way to kill people and how you can be racist without getting banned on twitter to anything else our deprived mind can come up with.
Logged

scriver

  • Bay Watcher
  • City streets ain't got much pity
    • View Profile
Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #398 on: April 04, 2023, 01:54:26 am »

Can I... can I ask it to do the dishes
Logged
Love, scriver~

Maximum Spin

  • Bay Watcher
  • [OPPOSED_TO_LIFE] [GOES_TO_ELEVEN]
    • View Profile
Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #399 on: April 04, 2023, 05:48:29 am »

Can I... can I ask it to do the dishes
Yes, you can ask, but it doesn't have hands.
Logged

jipehog

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #400 on: April 04, 2023, 10:55:21 am »

Chinese popular social media TikTok keep getting limited\banned across the world

https://apnews.com/article/tiktok-ban-privacy-cybersecurity-bytedance-china-2dce297f0aed056efe53309bbcd44a04
Logged

Quarque

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #401 on: April 04, 2023, 11:08:44 am »

Jailbreaking is an example how hard it is to create a machine with any kind of intelligence that does what you want.

But as I see it, the bigger problem is that we're getting ever more intelligent machines that do exactly what someone wants. Possible results:

*machines make us happy. By tying us all up and making us high on dopamine 24/7
*machines still trying to maximize profits of companies that stopped existing when they destroyed humanity for short term gains
*machines ensuring that every Chinese citizen behaves nicely
..

I find it difficult to see how building an AGI can end well.
Logged

King Zultan

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #402 on: April 05, 2023, 04:44:24 am »

Chinese popular social media TikTok keep getting limited\banned across the world

https://apnews.com/article/tiktok-ban-privacy-cybersecurity-bytedance-china-2dce297f0aed056efe53309bbcd44a04
I'm not upset to hear that, I've seen some stuff that was on that thing and it just seems to be people talking about dumb shit.
Logged
The Lawyer opens a briefcase. It's full of lemons, the justice fruit only lawyers may touch.
Make sure not to step on any errant blood stains before we find our LIFE EXTINGUSHER.
but anyway, if you'll excuse me, I need to commit sebbaku.
Quote from: Leodanny
Can I have the sword when you’re done?

KittyTac

  • Bay Watcher
  • Impending Catsplosion. [PREFSTRING:aloofness]
    • View Profile
Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #403 on: April 05, 2023, 09:33:10 am »

Solution: don't give AI access to that much power until it can be restricted enough. I'm seriously skeptical about the "AI box" thought experiment. Those doomy scenarios are really not possible unless AI is given full control of technology.
Logged
Don't trust this toaster that much, it could be a villain in disguise.
Mostly phone-posting, sorry for any typos or autocorrect hijinks.

Cthulhu

  • Bay Watcher
  • A squid
    • View Profile
Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #404 on: April 07, 2023, 04:05:15 am »

As I mentioned in the other thread, I think the big problem with AI doom scenarios is doom is hard and AI doesn't do hard things. It finds ways to solve its objective function that require as little work as possible, usually in the process completely defeating whatever practical purpose the objective function had. And I don't think there's any way to circumvent this that doesn't make the AI worse than a human would be at the same task.  If you tell the AI to destroy the world it'll find a way to define the world as already destroyed and collect its dopamine. Or destroy the simplest and most available thing first, which is itself.

Also my friend showed me a preprint of a new attention model that could be a gamechanger if it's for real.  It claims to find a way to get processing costs to scale linearly with context size, where traditional models scale quadratically. It's a major limiter on LLM capabilities. GPT-4 has 4096 tokens, which is a ton, but going up to 8192 would imply squaring the cost to calculate.  If we can circumvent that then context sizes of tens or hundreds of thousands of tokens, maybe even millions, became feasible.  An AI with a million tokens could potentially hold the entire bible in its context.  Something like that could write a novel, or even a series of novels, while keeping everything coherent.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2023, 04:10:21 am by Cthulhu »
Logged
Shoes...
Pages: 1 ... 25 26 [27] 28 29