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Lord Shonus

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Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #285 on: March 05, 2023, 02:50:28 pm »

And industrial robots are going to replace all human workers by 2019.

I've seen this "Oh no! Jobs are going away forever!!!" thing many times, and it's always turned out to be nonsense. This will go the same way these things always do.
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Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #286 on: March 05, 2023, 03:04:44 pm »

I seen similar jokes in the prelude to Russian invasion, they didn't age well. Not sure what is your point but I think that people failing to prepare, are preparing to fail.
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Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #287 on: March 05, 2023, 03:10:26 pm »

Why would people worry about jobs going away?  It's not like they need a job for food water n shelter or anything.
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Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #288 on: March 05, 2023, 07:13:16 pm »

In reality, what people call "AI" isn't much different from the Norton Bomb sight in WWII. A bunch of formulas (now code) in a machine that does a task.

Humans have the advantages of greater programmability and mobility.

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Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #289 on: March 05, 2023, 08:44:21 pm »

AI will likely muscle in on the industry and reduce the niche but for the foreseeable future you'll still need to guide it and possibly manually draw scenes that AI can't do for whatever reason (most likely a dataset blind spot).
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Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #290 on: March 05, 2023, 09:05:26 pm »

As for Art, I assume that human artist will still edit the AI creations to make them acceptable to human audiences.

True artists work with all sorts of tools, and I imagine some are quite excited to use AI to supplement their creativity.

Artisans however have always fought the machines, back to the first factories.  For good reason. 
Some survive, however, and some eventually are empowered by the machines.

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« Reply #291 on: March 06, 2023, 04:55:23 am »

I still think people who are relying on AI for their art are talent less hacks that lack any real talent.
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Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #292 on: March 06, 2023, 07:03:06 am »

I don't try to pass it off as something I drew, I just want on-demand art for visualization or more saucy purposes. I don't want to learn to draw or dig through the web to try and find exactly what I want.
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Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #293 on: March 06, 2023, 07:52:58 am »

In term of AI generating art, the human isn't an artist but the art director that is leading an artist that has no inspiration or will of its own (the AI).
The artist in that case is the AI.

Similarly in movie, the director is not an actor, but will lead the actors to make their play, though unlike AI at least actors are able to have inspiration and will of their own (usually :D )
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Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #294 on: March 06, 2023, 07:57:12 am »

I doubt the text is AI generated, but this is a nice example why I don't agree. When a single person can do one thing really well, AI enhancements allow them to compete for the main stage. This would be boring as transcript, this would be unachievable if it took the author 3 parodists to enact his vision. For what, 500 views? Man it would be even funnier if you had some gimmicky lip movement, like annoying orange but AI generated whackyness.


And talent's not a great measure I think... Talent is more like a coefficient that applies to the total amount of work required. So if "I want to it to require real human work" is an important factor, it's a bit like you'd respect the least talented artists the most because they put in more effort for a similar result.


For me long term, if I could entertain myself by having a few systems work against or with eachother to create free content to myself, I'm not sure I'd bother with it in the marketplace, I'd most likely just hedonistically indulge in it.
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Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #295 on: March 06, 2023, 09:55:33 pm »

Why would people worry about jobs going away?
If you don't want talk about that, how more pressing concern in realm of cyber with influence and misinformation camping's and all other social ills tied to this topic.
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« Reply #296 on: March 06, 2023, 10:33:43 pm »

Why would people worry about jobs going away?
If you don't want talk about that, how more pressing concern in realm of cyber with influence and misinformation camping's and all other social ills tied to this topic.
Well yeah.
Most of the practical uses for AI have been in the realm of propaganda and mis-information.

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« Reply #297 on: March 07, 2023, 05:53:00 am »

more saucy purposes.
I was under the impression that these art AI things couldn't do things like that.
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« Reply #298 on: March 07, 2023, 06:43:45 am »

more saucy purposes.
I was under the impression that these art AI things couldn't do things like that.
It would just depend upon the corpus being used. I think, based only on what I've seen in passing, that this sort of territory is already being investigated and exploited. And I've not been specifically looking. But I could probably go and find an example right now (if not blacklisted behind the content filter I don't think I've ever seen need to remove from this current service I'm currently on) if I were so inclined. (Also it could probably push the boundaries of Bay12 Ts&Cs, or at least Tarn's good-will and patience.)

That's if I understand the original suggestion and your own interpretation of that suggestion. Otherwise, I'm clearly talking of a different slant of kink. But that's just demonstrating the truth of Rule 34, or some corollary of it.
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Re: Reactions to Chinese White Balloon of AI Awareness
« Reply #299 on: March 07, 2023, 06:49:54 am »

more saucy purposes.
I was under the impression that these art AI things couldn't do things like that.
Given the right inputs and feed data, the only thing AI can't do is draw pictures of people eating noodles with chopsticks
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