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Author Topic: CWAR: SFS Thread // Revision Phase // Warm Seasons 1947  (Read 11121 times)

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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Revision Phase // Summer 1946
« Reply #60 on: February 01, 2023, 09:32:18 am »

I do think we should make a better plane, but we shouldn't only let the capitalists use it. We have plenty of uses for better logistics ourselves.
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Lizing Li-GG Longhaul Cargo Plane:
Let us beat swords into ploughshares, and bombers into cargo transports that will forever change global commerce.

Take a Lizing Li-4. Remove the turrets and bombing equipment, convert the interior into cargo space (with a pressurised section for passengers). Swap out the combustion engines with GGPRO engines- lowish pressure (35psi cruising, 50psi max); much more fuel efficient, slightly more powerful than the primitive motors they replace.
Voila. A cargo plane. A cargo plane with enough range to fly from the New World to the Old World (when equipped with extra fuel, and at least two crew shifts). A cargo plane which can only be operated by the SFS or approved partners, due to the need for Gavgas- but we have no intention of using capitalist price-gouging techniques on our intercontinental flight monopoly. No, we'd much rather make businesses and nations dependent on our services, grateful to us for our affordable rates.
Of course, the North will probably come up with a Caelium-based alternative at some point, but at least we'll be able to claim we were the first to fly between continents, and we'll have uses for longhaul cargo planes later anyway.

The GITGUD is too far gone to fix in one go. Focus on the part that has long-lasting implications, and we can make better encryption later.
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Gavrilium Evaluator Iteration:
Don't even get me started on the laughable state of 'encryption' featured in the GITGUD. Literally a child could crack it in five minutes. There's absolutely no need for a machine to do it for you. What is wro- Okay, sorry, I got started.

Forget about fixing the encryption for now. Gavrilium Evaluators need refining. We can do that. Make small changes, test, note performance, repeat. The goals are: less likely to catch fire; less likely to break if you look at them funny; easier to produce. It's new technology, so there are bound to be many small flaws or unnecessary steps in production that we can smooth over. 
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Revision Phase // Summer 1946
« Reply #61 on: February 01, 2023, 09:38:33 am »

Quote from: Vote Gud
Lizing Li-GG Longhaul Cargo Plane: (1) TricMagic
Gavrilium Evaluator Iteration: (1) TricMagic
Pretty much these.
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Revision Phase // Summer 1946
« Reply #62 on: February 01, 2023, 01:10:24 pm »

D7 suggested a more specific fix to the Evaluators would be better. We discussed it, then the phrase "Techno-Stroopwafel" was used, at which point our fate was sealed (in delicious inert resin).
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Gavrilium Evaluator Waffles:
Don't even get me started on the laughable state of 'encryption' featured in the GITGUD. Literally a child could crack it in five minutes. There's absolutely no need for a machine to do it for you. What is wro- Okay, sorry, I got started.

Forget about fixing the encryption for now. Gavrilium Evaluators need refining. We can do that.
Here's a problem we've found: Gavrilium Evaluators consist of several components that are delicately combined together. There's a lot of potential for mistakes in manufacturing, and it's pretty easy for things to shift out of place if shaken or stressed. If we could somehow consolidate the different parts into a single cohesive whole, it would be a lot more sturdy.
So here's our fix: the Gavrilium Evaluator is assembled in a mold, ensuring each component is precisely aligned. It is then covered with an inert resin, which is in turn covered with a tiny plastic 'waffle'. Once the resin is hardened, the waffle is flipped over, and the other side is also covered with resin and a waffle. It looks delicious, but IS NOT EDIBLE. I REPEAT, DO NOT EAT THE GAVRILIUM WAFFLES. Provided it is not eaten, the rugged waffles can easily be secured in a larger device, and the hardened resin keeps the Gavrilium Evaluator securely in place and protected from water and dust.
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Revision Phase // Summer 1946
« Reply #63 on: February 01, 2023, 01:26:33 pm »

Quote from: Vote Waffling
Lizing Li-GG Longhaul Cargo Plane: (1) TricMagic
Gavrilium Evaluator Waffles: (1) TricMagic
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Revision Phase // Summer 1946
« Reply #64 on: February 01, 2023, 01:48:05 pm »

Quote from: Vote Waffling
Lizing Li-GG Longhaul Cargo Plane: (2) TricMagic, Frostgiant
Gavrilium Evaluator Waffles: (2) TricMagic, Frostgiant

As soon as the term Stroopwafel was typed out, our fate was pre-determined.

In other news, I've been brainstorming different Gavrillium Weaponry Beyond Rime shells and the good old Super molten AP from Iwar. Have an electromagnetic Radiation Gun. Gavrillium heavy and so expensive, but aside from spare parts its should basically be supply line light, not needing Bullets.  The next stop would either be Going bigger for even more range and power, Or enabling a more complex "Leafed" Half sphere of MG-Brass in order to let the gunner change the Radiation Intersects for better armour pen at all ranges, and going the opposite for anti-infantry.

Quote from: “hollandsʹka pich” Microwave Cannon

Designed for Mounting onto a vehicle chassis or tripod, The Microwave cannon is, at the end of the day, a tube ending in a concave Partial sphere that sits at 1 and a half meters long and .25 meters in diameter with a simple two-grip Aiming mechanism for the gunner to aim the swiveled tube.

Inside the tube sits an assembly very similar to a Radar array, designed to produce high amounts of short-wave electromagnetic radiation, powered by a Small Compatmentalized GGpro designed to power the entire array. During use, the Produced electromagnetic radiation is fired from the Emmiter antenna in the center of the Concave plate, Directly into a similar, small Concave Plate.

Both The larger Plate and the reflector plate are created with specially treated, Gavrillium Impregnated Gavrillium. During the forging process, Gavrillium dust is mixt into the molten brass and bombarded with Shortwave Magnetic radiation, creating an inherent essence between the Gavrillium dust.

Upon firing, The Emmiter antenna Transfers the entire output of electromagnetic radiation from the internal assembly Directly into the Reflector plate, Which magnifies the power of the Electromagnetic Waves and sends them bounding back.

These enhanced waves Then collide with the Greater Plate, Growing in strength and magnitude yet again as the Radiotion reflects off of the Concave surface to a Sighted target.

Due to the Nature of the Concave reflection, The Powerful electromagnetic radiation grows more and more concentrated until it reaches the predetermined angle. Past this, The electromagnetic radiation Spreds back out, Like an hourglass, until the radiation finally loses enough strength to be absorbed by the atmosphere

This leads to an Interesting firing pattern, as the closer to the middle, The more Concentrated the beam is, while the close to the emitter itself leads to a larger affected area, Leaving dinner plate-sized Burns through infantry at relatively close ranges and molten scores on and into tanks at long ranges, Looking similar to a Hourglass if One was to sketch out its field of effect.

As is, The hollandsʹka pich cannon is designed as a complete unit, Capable of firing until component failure in its electrical guts or the Gavrillium magnifier plates finally Lose their Polarization, requiring replacement, Thus aside from maintenance requiring little outside input aside from unspecialized fuel can be siphoned straight from the vehicles it is mounted on, Unlike your standard cannon, which requires Shells, Cleaning, and maintenance.
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Revision Phase // Summer 1946
« Reply #65 on: February 01, 2023, 02:03:18 pm »

My reasoning:
Logistics, international prestige, connections with neutral nations.
Techno-Stroopwafel.
Quote from: Vote Waffling
Lizing Li-GG Longhaul Cargo Plane: (3) TricMagic, Frostgiant, NUKE9.13
Gavrilium Evaluator Waffles: (3) TricMagic, Frostgiant, NUKE9.13
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Revision Phase // Summer 1946
« Reply #66 on: February 01, 2023, 04:51:06 pm »

4.20 is Impossible (but not impossible). The bomber conversion itself isn’t overly difficult, but making sure you have ground crews within unsa territory able to perform any maintenance and refueling the plane would need most certainly is, amplified by the fact that you’re not just using any engines, but engines fueled by drugs a relatively new and very much government controlled resource. It’ll either be difficult to maintain opsec or difficult to convince anyone the airline isn’t an SFS asset thanks to the engines, which in turn makes it more likely them decadent pig dogs will keep their lips sealed (and therefore reduces the chances of successful intel gathering, which is ultimately what the difficulty reflects). Gavrilium-based technology making its way into civilian hands within the federation would do wonders to reduce suspicion.

The marksman’s rifle is Very Easy due to the combination of the relatively mild demands and a little bit more firearms experience than you started the game at.

Sak-2 is Hard, with a fairly easy engine swap complicated by the inclusion of a fly-by-wire system kept only barely out of Very Hard thanks to the (limited) work with electronics done with the gitgud.

Li-GG is Normal, since takes what the 4.20 wants to do and removes the excessively difficult part.

The Evaluator Iteration is Trivial, it is very focused on a very specific part and it’s very specific issues. “Do better” might not be the cheapest plan or achieve the most effective results, but it’ll certainly do something.

Waffles are Very Easy. There’s a little more work being done, but it’s also much more likely to have a better impact than the above unless you’re really unlucky. (That is unless I’m very unlucky when I roll)

The Rasergun is a design and will need to be reproposed there for an estimation.

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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Revision Phase // Summer 1946
« Reply #67 on: February 01, 2023, 11:41:53 pm »

Quote from: Vote Waffling
Lizing Li-GG Longhaul Cargo Plane: (3) TricMagic, Frostgiant, NUKE9.13
Gavrilium Evaluator Waffles: (4) TricMagic, Frostgiant, NUKE9.13, Taricus
Sak-2A: (1) Taricus
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Revision Phase // Summer 1946
« Reply #68 on: February 02, 2023, 01:58:56 am »

In light of the Waffles being Very Easy, I figure we can afford to make the encryption a little bit more complex, so that it isn't literally useless. It's still not worthy of using cutting-edge electronics, but at least we can gain some benefit from the thing. It is literally just one extra step, so I'd be surprised if this bumped the difficulty past Easy.
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Gavrilium Evaluator Waffles & Vigenere:
Don't even get me started on the laughable state of 'encryption' featured in the GITGUD. Literally a child could crack it in five minutes. There's absolutely no need for a machine to do it for you. What is wro- Okay, sorry, I got started.

Priority number one: Gavrilium Evaluators need refining. We can do that.
Here's a problem we've found: Gavrilium Evaluators consist of several components that are delicately combined together. There's a lot of potential for mistakes in manufacturing, and it's pretty easy for things to shift out of place if shaken or stressed. If we could somehow consolidate the different parts into a single cohesive whole, it would be a lot more sturdy.
So here's our fix: the Gavrilium Evaluator is assembled in a mold, ensuring each component is precisely aligned. It is then covered with an inert resin, which is in turn covered with a tiny plastic 'waffle'. Once the resin is hardened, the waffle is flipped over, and the other side is also covered with resin and a waffle. It looks delicious, but IS NOT EDIBLE. I REPEAT, DO NOT EAT THE GAVRILIUM WAFFLES. Provided it is not eaten, the rugged waffles can easily be secured in a larger device, and the hardened resin keeps the Gavrilium Evaluator securely in place and protected from water and dust.

While we can't fully resolve the abysmal state of encryption the GITGUD currently uses, we can at least add one more step to the process, so that it isn't trivial to crack. Rather than using a Caesar Cipher (why is it called that, anyway? Did they name it after the salad, or what?), we can use a Vigenere Cipher (again, no idea where the name comes from) by changing the value used in the Caesar Cipher process with each letter. Instead of just one 32-option dial, there are eight in a row, each of which can be set to a different value. When sending or receiving a message, the first dial is used to modify the first letter, the second dial modifies the second letter, [...], the first dial modifies the ninth letter, and so on.

Quote from: Vote Waffling
Lizing Li-GG Longhaul Cargo Plane: (3) TricMagic, Frostgiant, NUKE9.13
Gavrilium Evaluator Waffles: (3) TricMagic, Frostgiant, Taricus
Sak-2A: (1) Taricus
Gavrilium Evaluator Waffles & Vigenere: (1) NUKE9.13
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Revision Phase // Summer 1946
« Reply #69 on: February 02, 2023, 02:36:23 am »

Quote from: Vote Waffling
Lizing Li-GG Longhaul Cargo Plane: (3) TricMagic, Frostgiant, NUKE9.13
Gavrilium Evaluator Waffles: (2) TricMagic, Frostgiant
Sak-2A: (1) Taricus
Gavrilium Evaluator Waffles & Vigenere: (2) NUKE9.13, Taricus
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Revision Phase // Summer 1946
« Reply #70 on: February 02, 2023, 04:28:05 am »

Quote from: The Numbers Station
Colloquially known as the Numbers Station is a radio station in Harren City operated by SFS state intelligence that broadcasts an endless stream of numbers and letters in a monotone voice 24/7. This broadcast contains a mix of useless, incoherent, nonsense, self damaging and rarely real orders all of which are encoded with a variety of basic ciphers(transposition, substitution and Vigenere). To use the numbers station all one of our operators needs to do is listen in every X number of days at a specific time slot and decode the message with a memorized cipher, provided it starts and ends with a set of passwords. While this is broadcasted openly so anyone with a radio can listen in its remarkably secure. While each individual message is easy to crack, the sheer number of them combined with the challenge of screening out fake messages from real ones makes it impractical to compromise. This method is limited, first off it’s one way only. Also the number of messages we can send is limited by how many someone can memorize. This can be overcome by ‘daisy-chaining’ new passwords and time but that’s risky, on the brightside updating this station with new encryption methods should be trivial.

Quote from: Vote Waffling
Lizing Li-GG Longhaul Cargo Plane: (4) TricMagic, Frostgiant, NUKE9.13, Lightforger
Gavrilium Evaluator Waffles: (2) TricMagic, Frostgiant
Sak-2A: (1) Taricus
Gavrilium Evaluator Waffles & Vigenere: (2) NUKE9.13, Taricus

I'm holding of on voting for the Gavrilium Evaluator Waffles & Vigenere in hopes of a difficulty check as I fear it might spike it a lot(Also to see if there is any interest in my thing I guess).
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Revision Phase // Summer 1946
« Reply #71 on: February 02, 2023, 03:05:32 pm »

GEW&V is Easy, it does what Waffles did and effectively adds a singular layer to the encryption process.

Numbers Station is...I'm going to say Theoretical, near Ludicrous on the grounds that you're revising encryption and glorified pagers into an actual radio station.
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Revision Phase // Summer 1946
« Reply #72 on: February 02, 2023, 05:12:53 pm »

Quote from: Vote Waffling
Lizing Li-GG Longhaul Cargo Plane: (4) TricMagic, Frostgiant, NUKE9.13, Lightforger
Gavrilium Evaluator Waffles: (2) TricMagic, Frostgiant
Sak-2A: (1) Taricus
Gavrilium Evaluator Waffles & Vigenere: (3) NUKE9.13, Taricus, Lightforger
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Revision Phase // Summer 1946
« Reply #73 on: February 04, 2023, 11:42:32 am »

Quote from: Vote Waffling
Lizing Li-GG Longhaul Cargo Plane: (5) TricMagic, Frostgiant, NUKE9.13, Lightforger, D7
Gavrilium Evaluator Waffles: (2) TricMagic, Frostgiant
Sak-2A: (1) Taricus
Gavrilium Evaluator Waffles & Vigenere: (4) NUKE9.13, Taricus, Lightforger, D7

Re: future aerospace efforts, I think there's probably potential for ducted fans with the GGPRO, but fighter aircraft deserve turbojets.
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Revision Phase // Summer 1946
« Reply #74 on: February 05, 2023, 09:27:09 am »

Design: Driehoekkopter

The Driehoekkopter has three sides of armor plate, containing a smaller outcrop in the middle of these sides on top. It utilizes three spinning blades at angles for flight and has several cameras and sensors for the pilot. These blades are powered by a High-Pressure GGPRO, allowing unparalleled horizontal mobility with a decent vertical climb when going straight up. With some missiles and machine guns mounted within the underside, it is well suited to ground suppression operations and a lesser degree of troop transport.
The three blades are smaller than traditional rotors and mounted on the triangle outcrops. Their spin speed determines the movement of the aircraft and results in an unusual movement pattern compared to fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters. The Driehoekkopter requires more training and a flight manual to use to its full potential.
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