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arka0415

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Magma crabs not firing
« on: January 12, 2023, 07:16:22 pm »
I tried making some Magma Crab pillboxes, but unfortunately they haven't fired at anything. Here's the setup:



Each crab is behind a fortification, with a retractable drawbridge to block line-of-sight if needed. I tried chaining some ducks in front of them, and some odd things began happening:

  • Both the magma crabs and the ducks became "Terrified while in conflict"
  • The ducks moved away from the magma crabs, as if trying to run away (but restrained)
  • The magma crabs didn't appear to shoot, but the ducks quickly became Tired
  • No combat notifications appeared, even though the ducks were apparently reacting to the magma crabs
  • All of my magma crabs have the "Vision lost" tag for some reason

Either way, nothing at all seemed to happen. I later opened the gates and let dwarves walk back and forth in front of the crabs, but nothing happened then either.

Have I not set this up properly, or do magma crab pillboxes not work anymore? Thanks!
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Blue_Dwarf

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Re: Magma crabs not firing
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2023, 11:06:27 am »
Try placing the ducks closer to the crabs.

I'm not sure if the mechanics are related, but a silk farm works fine like that.
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Re: Magma crabs not firing
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2023, 07:29:29 pm »
In the caves, giant cave spiders might attack a hauler but they won't spit webs at them, but if you send a squad of military after that spider then it will fire webs madly at them, and crabs might also respond like this if you send a squad walking past them.
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Re: Magma crabs not firing
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2023, 09:57:32 pm »
Are the crabs tame?
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Re: Magma crabs not firing
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2023, 05:15:29 pm »
Magma Crabs are cowards.
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Re: Magma crabs not firing
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2023, 07:10:15 pm »
Quote from: anewaname on January 13, 2023, 07:29:29 pm
In the caves, giant cave spiders might attack a hauler but they won't spit webs at them, but if you send a squad of military after that spider then it will fire webs madly at them, and crabs might also respond like this if you send a squad walking past them.

Thanks, I think this was the issue! I had dwarves, cats, ducks, and some herdable animals out there, and they never shot. So I gave up and just left the drawbridges open; lo and behold, the first Human merchant caravan that arrives was promptly blasted into ash, causing a forest fire that torched the entire map. So I guess they only work on entities that the game tags as "military" or "hostile" to some extent?
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Re: Magma crabs not firing
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2023, 08:15:33 pm »
The caravan guards... :p
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Re: Magma crabs not firing
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2023, 05:29:24 am »
Quote from: arka0415 on January 17, 2023, 07:10:15 pm
...blasted into ash, causing a forest fire that torched the entire map...
Congratulations on your success! 
You bring honor to dwarves everywhere. 
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Toughen Dwarves by dropping stuff on them.  (Nothing too heavy though, and make sure to wear armor.)
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whose feet tracked blighted soot.
And into every face he saw
his sooty foot he put."