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Author Topic: A middle ground between iron and steel  (Read 697 times)

TheMarmot

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A middle ground between iron and steel
« on: January 09, 2023, 09:01:48 pm »

I think there should be a new alloy which should be slighty stronger than iron but weaker than steel, it could prove useful in situations where obtaining steel becomes difficult (e.g., there is no flux stone near the embark zone), maybe humans should use this new metal.

A good example that comes to my mind is wrought iron, a low carbon alloy (or not, i'm not really a metallurgist) of iron that was used as a cheaper alternative to steel which is made through the puddling process, which is just continuously mixing the crude iron at a furnace to remove its impurities.

Or, perhaps a new fantastical metal that is found in the metamorphic layer could also work.
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Shonai_Dweller

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Re: A middle ground between iron and steel
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2023, 03:40:28 am »

Isn't that bronze?
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BeefotronX

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Re: A middle ground between iron and steel
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2023, 12:28:59 pm »

Case-hardened iron might make sense.  Require a certain amount of extra coal but no other materials.
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MrGlasses

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Re: A middle ground between iron and steel
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2023, 01:10:14 pm »

This sounds more like it could be a mod rather than a core addition.
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Red Diamond

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Re: A middle ground between iron and steel
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2023, 05:21:34 am »

I am pretty sure iron in the game *is* wraught iron.
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Putnam

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Re: A middle ground between iron and steel
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2023, 03:58:17 pm »

Isn't that bronze?

Bronze is quite a bit worse than iron for edged offense, slightly better for defense versus weak-in-impact-yield materials, quite a bit worse in defense overall versus anything that isn't weak in impact yield (all metals), and significantly better in blunt offense. It's a sidegrade, basically.

Iron in this game is already a pretty reasonable first-millennium steel AFAIK.

YashaAstora

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Re: A middle ground between iron and steel
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2023, 05:15:37 pm »

DF is not a game that is balanced for gameplay in any way. What would this new metal be? Something fictional? Besides Adamantine and the divine metals DF's geology is entirely based in reality. There's no metal that's in between iron and steel IRL and there probably won't be in DF.
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Putnam

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Re: A middle ground between iron and steel
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2023, 06:11:17 pm »

DF is not a game that is balanced for gameplay in any way. What would this new metal be? Something fictional? Besides Adamantine and the divine metals DF's geology is entirely based in reality. There's no metal that's in between iron and steel IRL and there probably won't be in DF.

What? Might want to, like, read up on the history of steelmaking? There's an entire continuous spectrum of steels with properties intermediate between DF's iron and DF's steel.

Resmisal

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Re: A middle ground between iron and steel
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2023, 07:11:48 pm »

Ironwood: "elvish steel" that you need steel to best. Tree enjoyers can craft shields that may or may not be traded.
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