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[ArmokGoB]

Has anyone been able to make one in the Steam release? Someone told me they had over 6k gems in their fort and not a single large gem or gem craft. I haven't seen any in my forts, other than the ones the merchants bring. My hypothesis is that the new reaction for "cut gem" and "polish stone" (rather than the old "cut <stone>" jobs) weren't updated to produce these items.

[PlumpHelmetMan]

Hmm...not really now that you mention it. Think all my cut gems produced so far have been small. Never really noticed the absence of large cut gems which is...interesting, certainly.

[Ziusudra]

Might or might not be related but, at embark small gems cost twice as much as the large gems (of the same material).

[Salmeuk]

seems like an oversight, can confirm no large gems made in my fortresses

[ArmokGoB]

Might or might not be related but, at embark small gems cost twice as much as the large gems (of the same material).

I didn't notice this. I wonder if it's related.

[LuuBluum]

Meanwhile, at a craftdwarf's workshop you can now craft large gems out of... rock, wood, pearl, and bone.

Methinks something went wrong here.

[Bumber]

Meanwhile, at a craftdwarf's workshop you can now craft large gems out of... rock, wood, pearl, and bone.

Methinks something went wrong here.

I'm pretty sure you could do that ever since work orders were added.

[LuuBluum]

Indeed, you would be correct. Booted up the last non-Steam version to check and sure enough. My mistake.

[Mobbstar]

I've gotten a large gem in 0.50.03 (in Irritam Anam) after cutting ten gems, which seems reasonable given the odds on the Wiki:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Exactly 5% of all rough gems will be cut into a single craft or large gem (with 1 craft for every 8 large gems), and the same occurs with raw glass (but with different ratios - 33% of all jobs, producing 11 crafts for every 16 large gems).

[ArmokGoB]

I've gotten a large gem in 0.50.03 (in Irritam Anam) after cutting ten gems, which seems reasonable given the odds on the Wiki:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Exactly 5% of all rough gems will be cut into a single craft or large gem (with 1 craft for every 8 large gems), and the same occurs with raw glass (but with different ratios - 33% of all jobs, producing 11 crafts for every 16 large gems).

You're sure they aren't (imported)? I had a 0.50.03 fort with three jeweler's workshops cutting gems on repeat for six years and didn't see a single large gem or gem craft.

[Mobbstar]

You're sure they aren't (imported)? I had a 0.50.03 fort with three jeweler's workshops cutting gems on repeat for six years and didn't see a single large gem or gem craft.

Yes, I am 100% certain.  See for yourself:


The gemcutter is Legendary.  Perhaps skill matters now.  I will let her chip away at some more gems and see if I get more large ones.

Update:  126 cuts later and no large gems.  Using 0.50.04

(Edit: using different image source; if you read this, i did a history preservation for YOU!)

[ArmokGoB]

You're sure they aren't (imported)? I had a 0.50.03 fort with three jeweler's workshops cutting gems on repeat for six years and didn't see a single large gem or gem craft.

Yes, I am 100% certain.  See for yourself:


The gemcutter is Legendary.  Perhaps skill matters now.  I will let her chip away at some more gems and see if I get more large ones.

Update:  126 cuts later and no large gems.  Using 0.50.04

This doesn't seem like intended behavior.

[Flying Dice]

Same behavior observed. I've cut ~100ish gems for export with no large using a single dwarf, but can freely make them from all of the non-gem craft mats.

[Bihlbo]

v50.04, no mods; got an expert gem cutter in the migration. 6th gem was a masterwork large gem. Not sure what'll happen after another 200 gems, we'll see.

Edit: 2 more large gems in not much time. Seems about as likely as it was in v47.

[EmperorCoolidge]

Hmm. Now that I think of it, my last 47 fort got three in the first year, but... I don't know that I have any after three in my current 50 fort. Still, my gems are all in bins so maybe I just haven't noticed.