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One design, one right - a gun and all its revisions only belong to one person at a time.

Each revision creates a new gun with rights different from the original.

I have no opinion.

[EuchreJack]

GM Question

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Given the phases available for some contract, is the intended rate of production one shipment per phase or one shipment per turn? Because of if it's the latter, some contracts might just be plain brutal and unprofitable to fulfil

1 shipment can be produced per line, per phase.

Edit: oh jeez, the rules said "per turn", which was an error from an earlier version of the ruleset.  It is indeed supposed to be per phase.  Sorry for any confusion.

Aren't they the same?

[EuchreJack]

ACTACTACT

NOPE LLC will not be submitting a design to any trials. Instead, it offers its facilities for subcontracting at a cost+15 for weapons, with a "we wont sell to civvies, but you need to buy all we make" clause.
NOPE LLC will also use its ammunition press to make a shipment of 7.92x55mm for delivery to GERHARDT & SONS, for $9 due on delivery, as-per contract discussed Here.

Spoiler: NOPE LLC (click to show/hide)

Company Name: Neefs, Omloop, & Poels Engineering LLC (NOPE LLC)
Market Share: $0
Cash: $50
Weapon Designs: NOPE M18 Repeater

Production Line #1: None
Ammo Press #1: None

Warehouse: 1 Occassio Company Charter – NOPE LLC.

Huh. How badly did I roll, that lever-delayed(blowback) became lever-action, that detachable box magazines became fixed internal ones, and that "repairs are not for unit-level, but armorer" became "cleaning is not for unit-level, but armorer"? Or was it just down to my writing being awful? Ohwell. Also, we do get charged the $100 for this design, right?

 Anyone subcontracting production? I dont think I can fob this particular dumpster fire off on anyone, not in the weird state it is in now.

I might be interested in buying your design from you. My revolvers are profitable but uninspired, so it might be fun to have a design with which to "tinker".
If you're up for discussion on the discord, link
Otherwise feel free to contact me via PM.

[Doomblade187]

Company Name: Terran Industrial
Market Share: $0
Cash: $150
Weapon Designs: None

Production Line #1: None
Ammo Press #1: None

Warehouse: 1 Occassio Company Charter – Terran Industrial

[IronyOwl]

Psst. Hey kid. Wanna print me some ammo?

[Sensei]

So we can make two batches of weapons per year huh? Nice. In that case I guess I had better not leave my assembly lines idle, since I can sell inventory for a guaranteed small profit even if I lose the contract. If I DO win a contract, I'm going to want that batch ready to go!

ACTACTACT
Cancer Felicitus will produce one batch of Cancer Adreptus handguns and one batch of ammunition for the same. The total cost of this should be $11, leaving me with $39.

Spoiler: Company Details (click to show/hide)

Company Name: Cencer Felicitus
Market Share: $0
Cash: $39
Weapon Designs: "Cancer Adreptus" Handgun

Production Line #1
Ammo Press #1

Warehouse: 1 Occassio Company Charter [Cancer Felicitus]
1 Batch of Cancer Adreptus, market value $18
1 Batch of 8.5mm Margaritae, market value $6

Spoiler: Designs (click to show/hide)

Cancer Adreptus
Chambered in 8.5x20mm, the Cancer Adreptus is a toggle-lock handgun with a very pretty finish.  Unlike the Luger (a particularly infamous toggle-lock handgun), the toggle is below the barrel in order to reduce recoil.  The toggle and most all moving parts are contained within a rounded shroud for protection, which gives the gun a bulky shape.  When fired, the barrel slides back in the gun, breaking the toggle-lock to eject the shell.  A spring closes the toggle, feeding a fresh bullet into the barrel.

Simply put, maintenance and cleaning is a nightmare.  The shroud must be removed before the gun can be disassembled, and the internal mechanisms were not designed with maintenance in mind.  Feeding jams are relatively common, and both the magazine release and safety are described as “sticky” by testers.  The Cancer Adreptus also does not hold up to damage very well, as a drop can cause the toggle to come out of alignment.  Furthermore, though the covered toggle keeps it away from stray fingers, it also means it cannot be directly cocked and relies on the user pushing on a tab in the ejection port.

Recoil is surprisingly low, but the accuracy is not particularly impressive for a handgun.  The gun is, however, very pretty with its nickel plating, though the extra work to do so increases manufacturing cost.  Rimless cased ammo with bottlenecking allows the bullets to feed smoothly (when all other parts are operating correctly), but further increases cost a small amount.

Cost: $8 per Shipment

[Iris]

I have been crunching numbers for a while. Military contracts verge from "much less profitable than selling to the civilian market" to "actively unprofitable to fill". There is in fact no incentive whatsoever to be a subcontractor for anything less than market price if you have any design available at all, and offering subcontracts at market rate will eat the profits of the primary contractor alive. If someone wants the numbers, I can post them.

The only reason you would ever fulfill a contract, besides immaterial "market share" (and even then, you cannot win if you're bankrupt, and only the primary contractor wins market share anyway) is if you have no designs available and thus can be senselessly exploited by anyone who has a design.

To avoid this eventuality, because Korsgaard Armoury is committed to the fair and equal treatment of all companies, Korsgaard is willing to grant manufacturing rights to any company that does not currently have the rights to any design for a small fee of $10 every four phases, or 25% of profit for each weapon produced to Korsgaard patterns - whichever is more convenient.

[Maximum Spin]

I think I'm going to handle this the evictedSaint approved way: by arbitrarily glomming on to one person and making no strategic decisions.
Stirk! What do you want me to do with these production lines?

[Stirk]

I think I'm going to handle this the evictedSaint approved way: by arbitrarily glomming on to one person and making no strategic decisions.
Stirk! What do you want me to do with these production lines?

Me? 

Uh, make a bunch of guns. In a surprising touch of realism the civilian market has an endless need for fully auto 20mms so we'll sell them even if we don't get the contract. And also bullets for the guns. Preferably my guns and my bullets. Then send them to me. And I'll either sell them to the military or someone who needs to defend themselves against their neighbor's tank. We can split the profit of the guns you send 50/50?

[ConscriptFive]

I think I'm going to handle this the evictedSaint approved way: by arbitrarily glomming on to one person and making no strategic decisions.
Stirk! What do you want me to do with these production lines?

Me? 

Uh, make a bunch of guns. In a surprising touch of realism the civilian market has an endless need for fully auto 20mms so we'll sell them even if we don't get the contract. And also bullets for the guns. Preferably my guns and my bullets. Then send them to me. And I'll either sell them to the military or someone who needs to defend themselves against their neighbor's tank. We can split the profit of the guns you send 50/50?

In related news, my factory is suddenly twice as productive as promised, so I'm now sacrificing twice as much as planned to leave enough room for a turn 2 contract.  Anybody want it?

[Light forger]

ACTACTACT
Singular Design will make a batch of Exemplars and their matching ammo to be sold immediately to the public. Leaving us with 40$ this turn and 63$ next turn(I believe).

Spoiler: Singular Design (click to show/hide)

Company Name: Singular Design
Market Share: $0
Cash: 50-10(+23 next turn)
Weapon Designs: Exemplar Semi-Auto Pistol

Production Line #1: Exemplar Semi-Auto Pistol
Ammo Press #1: 7.5x20mm

Warehouse: 1 Occassio Company Charter – Singular Design.

Spoiler: Designs (click to show/hide)

Exemplar Semi-Auto Pistol
8 round 7.5x20mm (singlestack)
Blow-forward, shrouded
Cocked via back tab/sight/safety

The Exemplar is a blow-forward handgun with an eight-round 7.5x20mm detachable magazine.  The weapon’s barrel slides forward after firing to eject the spent brass before scooping a fresh round out of the magazine.  The tab on the back of the barrel pulls triple duty as both sights, cocking handle, and a forward stop for the barrel’s recoil.

The shroud covering the barrel helps to keep moving parts from catching on debris, but tends to redirect fouling from the brass ejection back into the slide.  Stove-pipe jams can occur, especially when the magazine is nearly empty or the recoil spring is worn out.  The locking pin for the shroud can come lose or be broken during use, and in one particular case the shroud was propelled off the gun by the recoil spring when broken.  The curved handle within which the magazine sits has very little wiggle room, and a sufficiently dirty weapon will see it stick in place.

The blow-forward design increases perceived recoil, which makes rapid fire difficult.  The barrel also has a tendency to “float” if tolerances are poor or the mechanisms become worn - which isn’t a terrible issue as the weapon isn’t meant for sniping to begin with, but is something to consider.  Testers report the trigger pull is nice and easy, but there’s a significant chance of an accidental discharge when attempting to cock the barrel with a round already chambered.

Cost: $7 per Shipment

[a1s]

Hey, pistol designers,
I would like to buy a non-exclusive, non-resellable blueprint for you designs! I am prepared to pay $10 on the spot, or negotiate a better price.

Aywanez Industries on one side and __________ on the other agree to to following terms:
0. Definition of terms:
0.1 The receiver is understood to mean Aywanez Industries
0.2 The Designer is understood to mean _______________
0.3 The Blueprint is understood to mean full technical documentation and legal permission required to produce a pistol design.
1. Obligations of the Designer
1.1 The Designer will provide the receiver with the Blueprint upon signing of this contract.
2. Obligations of the Receiver
2.1 The Receiver will pay the designer a lump sum of $10 upon signing of this contract.
2.2 The Receiver shall not submit the Blueprint into any government trials.
2.3 The Receiver shall not resell the Blueprint to other players
2.4 The Receiver shall not tinker with the Blueprint, including with the intent of avoiding any of it's obligations

Aywen Ayez  , CEO
______________

[EuchreJack]

I'm thinking more $17, otherwise acceptable as written, let me know what you think.

[Draignean]

Spoiler: Ursus Brachi (click to show/hide)

Company Name: Ursus Brachi
Market Share: $0
Cash: $150
Weapon Designs: That's confidential

Production Line #1: None
Ammo Press #1: None

Warehouse: 1 Occassio Company Charter –  Ursus Brachi.

I'd be willing to help produce some existing weapon designs, at 7 dollars own profit for guns. It ain't much for you, but it's free money and my lines sit idle otherwise.

I'm amending this statement because it was made originally with a misunderstanding of ammo production rules.

[a1s]

I'm thinking more $17, otherwise acceptable as written, let me know what you think.

With a design that is unpleasant to shoot and wears out the cylinder so quickly I was thinking $12. The only thing to recommend this design is that it is going to be the cheapest on the market.

[Stirk]

ACTACTACT
Produce 1 KAM Shipment ($41)
Produce 1 20mm Ammunition Shipment ($3)

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Company Name: Krupp-Allen Family
Market Share: $0
Cash: $6
Weapon Designs: KAM

Production Line #1: KAM
Ammo Press #1: 20mm

Warehouse: 1 Occassio Company Charter – [Krupp-Allen Family].