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« Reply #540 on: March 26, 2023, 01:48:52 pm »

Yay! Israel's right wing media is stocking the flames of transphobia! we are like the US or UK!

Kinda surprised they did that actually, thought they would be busy trying to defend the not so popular attempt of takeover by the elected government, but that multitasking for you.
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« Reply #541 on: March 26, 2023, 04:05:31 pm »

Uh, stay safe down there Rockeater.

Also damn I was really hoping that the media transphobia wouldn't spread/get more pooular.
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« Reply #542 on: March 26, 2023, 04:14:23 pm »

Yay! Israel's right wing media is stocking the flames of transphobia! we are like the US or UK!

Kinda surprised they did that actually, thought they would be busy trying to defend the not so popular attempt of takeover by the elected government, but that multitasking for you.

They are defending the attempted takeover. By focusing on something else.
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« Reply #543 on: March 26, 2023, 07:20:23 pm »

Yay! Israel's right wing media is stocking the flames of transphobia! we are like the US or UK!

Kinda surprised they did that actually, thought they would be busy trying to defend the not so popular attempt of takeover by the elected government, but that multitasking for you.
Wish I could say I'm surprised but Israel's right-wing is, rather ironically, pretty damn fascist.

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« Reply #544 on: March 27, 2023, 03:10:59 pm »

I need to stop using Tumblr because I enjoy the bullshittery but there is no escape from the awful news of awful things happening around the world especially to queer people and it is well meaning but by God is it exhausting
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« Reply #545 on: March 28, 2023, 06:53:59 am »

I need to stop using Tumblr because I enjoy the bullshittery but there is no escape from the awful news of awful things happening around the world especially to queer people and it is well meaning but by God is it exhausting

Well isn't that the truth. LGBT getting killed here, banned there. It never ends.
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« Reply #546 on: March 30, 2023, 10:31:43 am »

The Dutch Association for Psychiatry (NVvP) came with a statement in their yearly congress, attended by 3800 psychiatrists.
In the statement, they expressed regret for the way that their profession has treated LGBTQ+ in the past.
Until late in the last century, LGBTQ+ were declared mentally ill (homosexuality was considered a mental disorder in our psychiatrists' handbooks up until 1973) and had to undergo horrible treatment, like castration.
The statement acknowledges that this has caused terrible harm to the persons involved.
The association hopes that their statement will support people who are coping with trauma.

This is the first time than an entire profession group explicitly expresses regret to the LGBTQ+ community.
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« Reply #547 on: March 30, 2023, 11:04:48 am »

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« Reply #549 on: March 30, 2023, 02:33:27 pm »

1973 was the year the DSM III stopped listing homosexuality as a mental disorder in the US, so the event was not very specific to the Dutch, for context.
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« Reply #550 on: March 30, 2023, 02:35:54 pm »

Random question: how is rib count size addressed?

EDIT: I could've sworn I saw even in earlier medical texts some difference in ribs (I mean it's trivial to count ribs, yeah?), but now all I can find is, no, everyone1 has 24 ribs.

Apparently the difference is that the last pair of floating ribs in women is smaller and was mistaken as being missing / perpetuated as a missing rib.

1Except for some genetic anomalies, apparently as much as 0.5% of the population (which is a large absolute number!).
« Last Edit: March 30, 2023, 03:12:13 pm by McTraveller »
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« Reply #551 on: March 30, 2023, 03:00:00 pm »

I'm... not sure why it'd be relevant? Folks of all chromosomes end up with irregular numbers of ribs, and even non-LGBT folks occasionally get some removed for reasons varied. Rib count isn't strictly indicative of much of anything on its own.
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« Reply #552 on: March 30, 2023, 03:22:14 pm »

I'm... not sure why it'd be relevant? Folks of all chromosomes end up with irregular numbers of ribs, and even non-LGBT folks occasionally get some removed for reasons varied. Rib count isn't strictly indicative of much of anything on its own.

Mostly wondering about how HRT would impact (if at all) bone structure, especially post puberty. Not just ribs, but hips, etc.
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« Reply #553 on: March 30, 2023, 03:54:34 pm »

It can affect bone structure, iirc. Quick double-check confirms it. Exactly how and to what extent depends on what's involved with the specific individual. Depends primarily on what hormones are involved and when they're applied, near as I can tell.

Hormone therapy can do that even when it's being used for reasons other than gender affirming care, for that matter. Estrogen can strengthen bones, ferex, and is part of some contraceptive methods or menopause treatment. HRT's just one use of hormones out of several, and it's not like being used for something else somehow magically makes it function differently, y'know?
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« Reply #554 on: March 30, 2023, 04:27:28 pm »

Incidentally, the "rib" from Genesis is a Greek translation from the prior original/intermediate word that appears elsewhere in the bible, but in no other case have these examples been treated as "rib".

Generally, it narratively relates to an element (to buildings, etc) that sticks out prominently. One idea, therefore, is that it should have been the penis-bone. Which many mammals have, but man lacks. Because Adam's was removed from him, for the purposes of creating Eve, being the suggestion.

(And because God was heavily into Lamarckism, rather than being a Darwinian, in those early days. Though it's clear He has definitely changed His mind about that since.)
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