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[nenjin]

"Unless you're built like Vegeta"

JOCKEYS RISE UP

Let me just get THAT right out of my Youtube history.....

[TD1]

I concur with LW on the labels thing.

They're at their best when used as a springboard for understanding your self better.

All too often they're simply used as a ready-made formula of selfhood.



Words are wind. Transition does not change self. Perhaps it makes the performance of self more comfortable. But One remains One.

Unless One is pregnant I guess. Or about to get married, depending on religion.

[Great Order]

No, transition can change the self. People aren't just the sum of their parts because the sum of their parts is also a part of themselves so it creates something of a feedback loop. Simply making someone more aware of who they are can change who they are.

People are just way too difficult to quantify because we're ever-shifting in myriad small ways.

[TD1]

I suppose I'm attempting to disassociate the outward display of transition from any significant internal change. At best, it's symptomatic.

At worst, it's a means of accruing new labels and definitions which, through performance and conscious adherence, serve to cloud the self.

I knew someone who was hesitant to give diagnoses to people, such as those with ADHD, whose symptoms were just integrated comfortably into their normal life. All too often, she said, a diagnosis caused them to perform - or not attempt to address - negative symptoms.

Random illustrative example. Providing someone with a label caused them to enact an entire category of meaning, not the individual or personal.

[Rose]

Transition can easily change the self, Tbh.

I only came into existence once transition started, and the person who owned this body before doesn't meaningfully exist anymore. Even if I have access to all his memories.

[Loud Whispers]

Let me just get THAT right out of my Youtube history.....

You mean these? My adsense recommends? My super-duper personalised marketing profile? You mean my ultra-specific demographic-oriented native content deployment stream? You mean my economy-driving shareholder arousing generic family-friendly commercialistic ultra plus one^TM targeted content relevising AI optimising course of personal history-perverting terms of conditions ignoring permissions?

Also regarding the self; I'm with the Buddha on this one, in the sense that it is true there is no 'self' distinct from the rest of the universe or the rest of time. The brain and soul is really the universe looking in on itself, and the 'self,' is just what it's seeing. So when we're content, that's the cosmos's way of knowing it is grateful for what it sees

[nenjin]

You mean these? My adsense recommends? My super-duper personalised marketing profile? You mean my ultra-specific demographic-oriented native content deployment stream? You mean my economy-driving shareholder arousing generic family-friendly commercialistic ultra plus oneTM targeted content relevising AI optimising course of personal history-perverting terms of conditions ignoring permissions?

Yeah, that.

[Vector]

You mean these? My adsense recommends? My super-duper personalised marketing profile? You mean my ultra-specific demographic-oriented native content deployment stream? You mean my economy-driving shareholder arousing generic family-friendly commercialistic ultra plus oneTM targeted content relevising AI optimising course of personal history-perverting terms of conditions ignoring permissions?

Yeah, that.

Magnificent.

At worst, it's a means of accruing new labels and definitions which, through performance and conscious adherence, serve to cloud the self.

Ah yes, like (checks notes) one's assigned gender at birth clouding the self pre-transition, and making people who interact with you treat you like a broken [assigned gender], as opposed to a healthy transgender person.

[Loud Whispers]

In my defence I am internally and externally consistent with my distaste of labels, as I also include all societal gender labels and constructs thereof in my criticism; the consequences of the French revolution upon gendered fashion for example have been a disaster to the human race

[Imic]

Sometimes I really do feel like I'm *this* close to hanging a nonbinary flag on my bedroom wall and dressing like a vampire every day. Gender, self-expression, identity... At the end of the day, it's up to each individual to decide who they are, and no-one else can change that, unless you live in North Korea, in which case it's probably safer not to.

[Grim Portent]

dressing like a vampire every day.

The world needs more capes.

[LadyBrassroast]

I'd wear a cape

along with a full suit of armor and visored helm, and the resulting inability to be perceived would do wonders for my autism and my gender

[Vector]

Congrats on the gender Lady BrassRoast

[LadyBrassroast]

lol, thank you, poking back in here attempting to recapture the simple joys I had here when I was 14 or 15 and spent most of my days playing DF

[Great Order]

Honestly coming back's been a bit confusing. A lot of people have left their old usernames behind after realising they're trans/transitioning.

I keep seeing names I don't recognise and then they say "Oh yeah, I used to be [username]". Like I remember Cinder, turns out they swapped their name to Hops.