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Author Topic: FBYOR 5 - Game Over - Learning From Disaster, As All Ends In Fire And Darkness  (Read 61658 times)

Knightwing64

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Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Cutthroat - 1 Replacement Needed
« Reply #1035 on: October 22, 2022, 08:54:16 am »

Hm.

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Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Cutthroat - 1 Replacement Needed
« Reply #1036 on: October 22, 2022, 11:46:10 am »

A slight correction, an extra vote currently does not change the hammer count. We are at 15 votes total so the majority remains at 8.

Also what happens if a replacement can't be found?
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Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Cutthroat - 1 Replacement Needed
« Reply #1037 on: October 22, 2022, 12:43:52 pm »

I really don't think you should kill NJW, NQT.
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« Reply #1038 on: October 22, 2022, 12:45:32 pm »

I do! since I still have no clue about them other than them being scummy.
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Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Cutthroat - 1 Replacement Needed
« Reply #1039 on: October 22, 2022, 12:59:05 pm »

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I really liked that last post from NJW. I substantially don't disagree with his reads. After giving myself time to cool down I am leaning towards not killing NJW.

Look, town spend most of any mafia game attacking and suspecting town. Him suspecting me is not a scumtell.

I think this escapade has been educational.

It's interesting that basically only Toony has come forward to give their twopence here. A scum NJW would have team mates who might at the very least try to hammer before my count down finishes to save their buddy. I'll give it a few more hours, but that's where I'm at right now.

Stepping away and coming back cool has definitely been good for me.
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Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Cutthroat - 1 Replacement Needed
« Reply #1040 on: October 22, 2022, 01:33:10 pm »

I've sent my day action in.

It's awkward because I need to submit it before day end which means I can't use knowledge of the flip.

I lied about a part of how my day ability works so if my target is confused, that's why. Pick the person that you think will lead to the greatest success.

I say we vote out web and just save us the trouble of needing a replacement

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For the good of the game this is probably best...

The reason I'm trusting Toony is due to the way he handled the first day (hence choice of target) and the second day. Additionally, his end of the bargain didn't make sense to me if he's a bad guy. I agree that my side is more iffy in this case, but not much I can do about that.
You think the ability I gave you is something only town could have? I guess I could see it, it's another information type action.

I recommend using that ability when it becomes relevant.
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Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Cutthroat - 1 Replacement Needed
« Reply #1041 on: October 22, 2022, 01:38:12 pm »

It's interesting that basically only Toony has come forward to give their twopence here. A scum NJW would have team mates who might at the very least try to hammer before my count down finishes to save their buddy. I'll give it a few more hours, but that's where I'm at right now.
I'm just saying how I feel.

We could think about it some more.

NJW immediately triggered their Cool Shades action, which seems to be a way to boost his number of votes for a day? I don't believe a mafia!NJW would burn his lylo breaker if there was a chance for him to survive the day, such as getting Webadict hammered to end the day early or by appealing to NQT to not kill him.
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Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Cutthroat - 1 Replacement Needed
« Reply #1042 on: October 22, 2022, 02:14:05 pm »

There is the point that NJW doesn't really know when he's going to die. 
I think if he were scum and Web were town, he'd use his three votes to hammer before dying.

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Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Cutthroat - 1 Replacement Needed
« Reply #1043 on: October 22, 2022, 03:07:00 pm »

There is the point that NJW doesn't really know when he's going to die. 
I think if he were scum and Web were town, he'd use his three votes to hammer before dying.
Even if they were both scum NJW may have done that since Web is likely to be lynched and that would mean both a mafia!NJW and mafia!Web die the same day.
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Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Cutthroat - 1 Replacement Needed
« Reply #1044 on: October 22, 2022, 03:13:27 pm »

Upon reread of the end few pages, and an actual need for replacement, I'm not against offing Webadict to make the game run smoother. I don't think NJW not hammering Webadict is too much of a tell either way, except for them not both being Mafia.
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Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Cutthroat - 1 Replacement Needed
« Reply #1045 on: October 22, 2022, 03:14:58 pm »

Looking at the other side, does this town clear NQT?
Revealing a day kill on Day 2 does not seem like something scum would do.

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« Reply #1046 on: October 22, 2022, 03:36:15 pm »

Looking at the other side, does this town clear NQT?
Revealing a day kill on Day 2 does not seem like something scum would do.
If I was scum and had a daykill I would definitely announce and use it...and I would kill town with it of course.

If NQT doesn't kill NJW and wastes their valuable daykill not killing then that's town points to me, even if their suspicion was correct and NJW really is mafia.
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« Reply #1047 on: October 22, 2022, 04:08:33 pm »

If NQT doesn't kill NJW and wastes their valuable daykill not killing then that's town points to me, even if their suspicion was correct and NJW really is mafia.

I agree with this.
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Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Cutthroat - 1 Replacement Needed
« Reply #1048 on: October 22, 2022, 04:09:51 pm »

I would say the opposite. You used the kill, you should see it through no matter the result. Taking it back for town points is something scum could do, especially with them almost confirmed by jack right now.


If NQT doesn't kill NJW and wastes their valuable daykill not killing then that's town points to me, even if their suspicion was correct and NJW really is mafia.

I agree with this.
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Re: FBYOR 5 (12 / 14) - Day 2 - Cutthroat - 1 Replacement Needed
« Reply #1049 on: October 22, 2022, 04:12:52 pm »

I would say the opposite. You used the kill, you should see it through no matter the result. Taking it back for town points is something scum could do, especially with them almost confirmed by jack right now.
Killing a town player "for free" basically is more valuable than town credit in my opinion.
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