Sorry, did a lunch break. Back to doing very little while combing through the thread and eventually finishing that reads list. When I get to it.
Not a lot to be said there! I'm happy to drop anchor in Vector's port, so to speak, while we await the goods.
I don't think it's Vector unless the Revive itself has other Actions tied to it or the Mafia have ways to shoot through it, which, like, possible. Vector isn't known to give me free things, as seen in MVM3.5, so my assumption is that their ability to give me stuff was tied to the inspect they claimed. The best reasoning you could give is that the inspect is a cover for them giving me a Revive or that the Revive actually is a cover for something negative. Regardless, I'm not willing to suspect them on that.
Overall, I don't see why you didn't jump on TolyK instead. I understand skipping Nakeen, since he's been under scrutiny here, but TricMagic and EuchreJack bring up good reasons to go after him.
I'll drop mine in EuchreJack's instead.
Hmm... I'm not feeling EuchreJack yet. There's some behavior that seems scummy, but I have a feeling that he doesn't know anything, given his conversation with ToonyMan, he'd be much more likely to join in with NJW2000 and vote me if he were scum unless you think he's scum with me.
I do think that TolyK is a good person to probe, though.
Arr assuming me count is correct (could we have an automated list o' D1 votes? Can Mamobo do that right?), this here be a list of the number of people each player serious voted (i.e. I ignored votes immediately rescinded in the same post, and RVS votes). Cast yer eye upon this:
I can do that, though it's not super organized, and I've been having some issues with Mamobo that I've been trying to fix in my spare time.
And you haven't named a game with a vigkill claimed by the Mafia because there isn't one. Any game with Mafia having an extra kill is never claimed, including the only game I had an extra kill as Mafia in Sup10 that wasn't claimed. Because there's no point in claiming it as Mafia.
You're repeatedly and I think intentionally ignoring the possibility that you are mafia with the scumkill. Mafia can lie. They can also kill, so can claim a kill action. Also, you did not demonstrate an extra kill, and while there is a mechanical explanation for this, I don't think there's proof you have one. It would be unusual for you to claim a vig kill as scum, but your scum game is unusual.
I am not going to rule out the possibility that you're scum just because you repeatedly yell that I should.
Please stop bothering me with this. You clearly have time for it, but I do not.
You said it was a possibility, which is true, but it's as easily dismissable if you have no cases proving your cases, especially when there are many cases disproving your case. You only feel like it's true, just like you feel like claiming Miller is NAI and that you feel like scumtells are scummy. There's significant evidence against what you're saying.
@NJW:
Web claims soaking a bunch of people and roleblocking me. Nobody has counter claimed and I can confirm both these things have happened. So while it's possible Web killed still I don't think they shot Max with a crossbow while also soaking people and blocking me (via Shock? Can Web explain what exactly roleblocked me because that was no shock) the same night.
My shock is a kill if the target is simultaneously Soaked and no one else targets them. If neither of those happen, they basically get "electrified" and roleblock their target. I don't get it, I didn't make the action, but that's how it works. I neglected to explain that part because it would've been explained in my roleflip or the target would've been died. I don't understand why it's convoluted, but those are my two strongest abilities.