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hector13

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Re: United Kingdom Bunker Thread - Politics & Economics
« Reply #300 on: February 25, 2023, 07:54:03 pm »

She’s entitled to maternity leave. If that is indeed the reason she has been deselected, that would be a ridiculous reason to have done so.

I don’t know what a constituency association committee is though. Is it specific to the party, or is it a non-partisan thing for a constituency?
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Re: United Kingdom Bunker Thread - Politics & Economics
« Reply #301 on: February 26, 2023, 05:14:57 am »

(I'm pretty much not ever more involved in any electoral matters beyond the actual public voting, but...) The former. Each respective party will have local people[1] who decide who they want to be the candidate. Occasionally they play a major role in disavowing an incumbant. Either alongside or oppposite the party line.

Though I suspect that rubbing entirely the wrong way against the full party machine would have consequences for them, so more likely just a matter of a firm attitude vs ambivalence is how that usually manifests, in most 'rebellions'/disagreements.




[1] With or without commandments/suggestions from the national level, e.g. whether Corbyn will represent Labour again, given Starmer says not.

edit: So many typos, having been rushed this morning, so I decided to clean it up...
« Last Edit: February 26, 2023, 07:01:29 pm by Starver »
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Re: United Kingdom Bunker Thread - Politics & Economics
« Reply #302 on: February 26, 2023, 10:53:33 am »

What do British Bay12 forumites think of this video about post-Brexit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPIEhBydrr8&t=8s&ab_channel=Nova
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« Reply #303 on: February 26, 2023, 11:47:00 am »

What do British Bay12 forumites think of this video about post-Brexit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPIEhBydrr8&t=8s&ab_channel=Nova

Seems pretty on point.
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Re: United Kingdom Bunker Thread - Politics & Economics
« Reply #304 on: February 26, 2023, 05:28:04 pm »

Well, it's right about the bad effects about Brexit. It's not that the Conservative party don't know about them, electorally they can't admit the truth without condemning themselves even more.

As for 'apocalypse' and 'verge of collapse'. No. Declining quality of life doesn't mean the end of civilisation. We're not entering Mad Max territory just yet.
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Re: United Kingdom Bunker Thread - Politics & Economics
« Reply #305 on: March 02, 2023, 11:09:49 pm »

https://www.politico.eu/article/whatsapp-panic-stalks-westminster-after-mass-leak-of-private-messages-matt-hancock/
WhatsApp panic stalks Westminster after mass leak of private messages

https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/27/signal-if-uk-government-undermines-encryption-it-can-kiss-messaging-service-used-by-its-employees-goodbye/
Signal: If UK Government Undermines Encryption It Can Kiss Messaging Service Used By Its Employees Goodbye

Not directly related by being the same app but fun stuff nonetheless

How goes that Internet Safety Bill? Haven't looked at what's been going on with that lately. I remain advising to not fuck up the internet with short sighted plans pushed by incompetent people with an agenda of controlling legal speech. You should probably leave internet regulation to people who didn't refuse to adopt new technology until a pandemic sat them on their ass for a while. This is because with things like gutting section 230 in the US these people are not aware of obvious flaws such as what is known in internet terms as "raiding" a site a herd of cats aware of how to camoflauge IP disagrees with.
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Re: United Kingdom Bunker Thread - Politics & Economics
« Reply #306 on: March 02, 2023, 11:18:54 pm »

https://www.politico.eu/article/whatsapp-panic-stalks-westminster-after-mass-leak-of-private-messages-matt-hancock/
WhatsApp panic stalks Westminster after mass leak of private messages

https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/27/signal-if-uk-government-undermines-encryption-it-can-kiss-messaging-service-used-by-its-employees-goodbye/
Signal: If UK Government Undermines Encryption It Can Kiss Messaging Service Used By Its Employees Goodbye

Not directly related by being the same app but fun stuff nonetheless

How goes that Internet Safety Bill? Haven't looked at what's been going on with that lately. I remain advising to not fuck up the internet with short sighted plans pushed by incompetent people with an agenda of controlling legal speech. You should probably leave internet regulation to people who didn't refuse to adopt new technology until a pandemic sat them on their ass for a while. This is because with things like gutting section 230 in the US these people are not aware of obvious flaws such as what is known in internet terms as "raiding" a site a herd of cats aware of how to camoflauge IP disagrees with.

In defense of law makers and politicians everywhere, they need to create new laws to embarrass themselves. Why are so many IP addresses on PornHub linked to Westminster?

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Re: United Kingdom Bunker Thread - Politics & Economics
« Reply #307 on: March 03, 2023, 12:08:24 am »

https://www.politico.eu/article/whatsapp-panic-stalks-westminster-after-mass-leak-of-private-messages-matt-hancock/
WhatsApp panic stalks Westminster after mass leak of private messages

https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/27/signal-if-uk-government-undermines-encryption-it-can-kiss-messaging-service-used-by-its-employees-goodbye/
Signal: If UK Government Undermines Encryption It Can Kiss Messaging Service Used By Its Employees Goodbye

Not directly related by being the same app but fun stuff nonetheless

How goes that Internet Safety Bill? Haven't looked at what's been going on with that lately. I remain advising to not fuck up the internet with short sighted plans pushed by incompetent people with an agenda of controlling legal speech. You should probably leave internet regulation to people who didn't refuse to adopt new technology until a pandemic sat them on their ass for a while. This is because with things like gutting section 230 in the US these people are not aware of obvious flaws such as what is known in internet terms as "raiding" a site a herd of cats aware of how to camoflauge IP disagrees with.

In defense of law makers and politicians everywhere, they need to create new laws to embarrass themselves. Why are so many IP addresses on PornHub linked to Westminster?

MPs looking at tractors.

Edit: As to what’s happening, Matt Hancock deserves everything he gets. He is one of the most contemptible politicians out there, and considering the contenders for that title in his party, that’s saying something.

Even putting that to the side, even protected by an NDA, why he gave all of his messages to a journalist that was anti-lockdown to write your memoirs is an utterly imbecilic move. Evidently he couldn’t see past the dollar signs in his eyes.
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Re: United Kingdom Bunker Thread - Politics & Economics
« Reply #308 on: March 03, 2023, 12:33:14 am »

I find both Hancock and that particular journalist both to be contemptable, for different reasons. Don't force me to choose which one should appear to come out of this episode the best.

And added to the proposed ways of online verification, there's the unwarranted shift towards the upwards cliff-edge of increased voter-ID requirements, which will (I predict) disproportionately penalise the those who end up falsely prevented from voting.

(Incidentally, on the lines of online UK stuff/identity, I uninstalled the BBC Weather App, the other day. Like the BBC News one had, some time last year, it changed from "You might like to register a BBC Online account to use this[1] and loads of other things[2]" into "You must have a registered account to use this". On principle, I once again declined and thus fell back to non-App weather info. I'm not a BBC hater/anti-Licence Fee/whatever, far from it, just consider this a matter of functional overreach with no practical necessity.)

[1] In ways I'd already been using it,, moreover, prior to the pestering and accompanying loss of functionality if I didn't follow their suggestion...

[2] That I don't use, or (now for definite) intend to.
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Re: United Kingdom Bunker Thread - Politics & Economics
« Reply #309 on: March 03, 2023, 05:27:45 am »

It's nice to know it's not just the American politicians that are complete and utter hypocrites.

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« Reply #310 on: March 03, 2023, 06:32:17 am »

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Re: United Kingdom Bunker Thread - Politics & Economics
« Reply #311 on: March 07, 2023, 06:56:38 am »

Regarding Matt Hancock and leaks

So Matt Hancock's lawyer just made the oof of a century

His lawyer disclosed some information to some GB news journalists, who then published that information, further dunking on Matt Hancock for being a slimy dick who holds the public in naked contempt. His lawyer got furious accusing GB news of betraying trust and basic journalism ethics that info made in confidence should not be disclosed but in the email he sent to GB news...

Instead of saying "I would be grateful if it was not mentioned" he wrote "I would be grateful if it was mentioned".

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Re: United Kingdom Bunker Thread - Politics & Economics
« Reply #312 on: March 07, 2023, 07:33:48 am »

*splorf*

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Or shouldn't. But luckily...
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Re: United Kingdom Bunker Thread - Politics & Economics
« Reply #313 on: March 07, 2023, 08:54:18 am »

That's hilarious :D

I have to say I'm a bit impressed by the lawyer being able to own it in the middle of an interview like that. I'm not sure I would have the wherewithal to not double down on an embarrassing mistake like that on a live broadcast in front of lots of people. I'm pretty sure the part of my brain that still reasons lime a 5-year-old would have taken over at that point

(Do the Brittele really have news shows where people jeer like that though?)
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Re: United Kingdom Bunker Thread - Politics & Economics
« Reply #314 on: March 07, 2023, 08:57:46 am »

GBNews doesn't really count as a proper news channel most of the time, it's basically "Wannabe Fox News". They more or less openly exist to push a narrative rather than to actually...ya know, report on the news.
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