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[Quarque]

OOC thread for a game created and hosted by Roseheart.

[RoseHeart]

Game Thread

Introduction:

H&H?
A 'Hurt & Heal' is a type of game where you typically take no more than one turn an hour, and perform two actions (Heal or Hurt 2 points, or do 1 point of each) to a list until all but one item is eliminated. In this game your two actions will be troop movements whether creating more, moving them, or attacking with them(or some combination).

Picture Wars?
In a Picture Wars game, you control a pixel art army and move them across a map to conquer land and defeat other armies. It is an informal game where storytelling is prioritized over competitiveness. Here what you can do is standardized to be competitive. Though units may still be customized and standard actions can be embellished with nonstandard flare.

This Thread:

OOC Thread
Space Platoon is a very fast moving game. We have a proposal system and combining voting and play is a bit hard to keep track all in one place. Please make proposals here from now on. If the patch notes get too long, I'll archive them here. Quarque has my permission to clean up the rules. They may post edits to them in the first post.

Proposals
Players can propose changes to the game(anything from small tweaks to entire new units or maps! can be effective immediately), if all surviving players agree then the change happens(give your proposal a nickname for easy reference). As creator, I have both the power to deny a proposal out-of-game and add new features without voting(if I present it as a proposal, then it's subject to a vote like normal; I will, typically, only skip the proposal step for remedial updates or executive compromises to avoid stagnation, or the minimal change necessary to keep me invested). If I am not in play, I'll want to review new features before making them official. However, temporarily, proposals can pass and be applied to just the current match without needing my review...Go nuts!

Stalemates
If the creator feels a match has gone on too long they may add any temporary rules that will bring the match to a close, or call a draw. (PM me if necessary)

Penalties/Reparations
If an error can't be sufficiently corrected by means outlined in the rules, and resulted in significant advantage or significant disadvantage for any player, then corrective action may be taken in a fair method and by the appropriate person, as outlined below:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

    • The creator (RoseHeart) may take corrective action for other players.
    • If the creator is playing, the 'most veteran player' or 'MVP', the player with the most wins(tie: most recent win, most participation, most recent participation, most recent post) will be responsible for correcting them.
    • If not, the MVP will correct all other players and next most MVP will correct them.
    • If anyone feels I or an MVP has issued a severely unfair correction, they can have the match paused, until I or a more MVP player(or if none, the next most MVP) can review it(PM if they're out of game), and same for our corrective actions.
    • We can revoke a player's ability to pause, if it's used unnecessarily, when making our ruling.
    • As for corrective actions themselves, a penalty or reparation can be any adjustment of pieces on the map or temporary limitations or leniencies for affected players.
    • A corrective action should balance things with minimal extra impact.
    • If there is extra impact the offending player should suffer the majority of the negatives, and any harmed player(s), reap the most benefits, if feasible.

New Player Priority
Due to limited space, if a player with less previous participation expresses interested in joining, allow them to join an open spot before you.


Hall of Fame:

Note: At this time My Forum Battalion results will be counted. This may change in the future.

Winners in red.

My Forum Battalion XX00
Participants: a1s, King Zultan, Gwolfski, RoseHeart
Replay

My Forum Platoon / Space Platoon
Participants: King Zultan, RoseHeart, a1s, Quarque
Replay

[RoseHeart]

Spoiler: Version 1.0.0 (click to show/hide)

OOC Thread

H&H?
A 'Hurt & Heal' is a type of game where you typically take no more than one turn an hour, and perform two actions (Heal or Hurt 2 points, or do 1 point of each) to a list until all but one item is eliminated. In this game your two actions will be troop movements whether creating more, moving them, or attacking with them(or some combination).

Picture Wars?
In a Picture Wars game, you control a pixel art army and move them across a map to conquer land and defeat other armies. It is an informal game where storytelling is prioritized over competitiveness. Here what you can do is standardized to be competitive. Though units may still be customized and standard actions can be embellished with nonstandard flare.

Map:

(Center doors are Armories, the rest are Airlocks. Arrowed tiles are Teleporters.)
(Units from left to right are Engineer, Soldier, and Firebat.)

Turns:
    • Please save all map changes in '.png' format for best quality.
    • Up to 4 players simultaneously. Choose an army color (distinct from white, black, red, and other armies) and claim an unowned (red) airlock by making the background your color. Joining only counts as one of your 2 moves.
    • Once per hour you can take a turn and perform 2 moves. Post "dibs". Then update the image with your actions and edit it into your post.
    • If you take longer than 15 minutes to do this, you can be skipped. (Same for joining players)
    • You can't take a turn twice in a row.
    • Your timer starts from the edit time of your last turn.
    • Units only move to adjacent spaces (up, down, left, right), and not diagonally. Units cannot move through other units or doors, or through walls and floors.
    • If the owner of an armory has no more airlocks or units, these doors become unowned.
    • If you were eliminated you can rejoin if there are any unowned (red) airlocks.

Special Rules:
    • Units may not be created until 1 hour after the 2nd player joins.
    • Capturing/disowning doors if they are behind floors or walls you don't own, is forbidden.
    • Units can't be created on the opposite side of a barrier as the door they came from. (Except your own)
    • If you spot an error from the last turn, feel free to correct it. If it would negativity effect them (like removing an action), 15 minutes is sufficient notice.

Engineer Moves:
    • Deploy up to 1 engineer per airlock you own, placing each on an empty space adjacent to a different one of your airlocks. When training engineers, you cannot increase your total army population(engineers, soldiers, and firebats) to more than 2 per airlock you own.
    • (once per unit) Choose an engineer that hasn't moved, you can move your engineer 1 space through a wall or floor.
    • (once per unit) Choose an engineer that hasn't moved. Build a wall in your army color. Your army can move through it. Do not build more walls than Airlocks you own.
    • (once per unit) Choose an engineer, change an adjacent enemy door into an unowned door.
    • (sacrifice unit) Choose an engineer, capture an adjacent unowned door. Remove your engineer.
    • (free action)(once per unit) Choose an engineer, destroy an adjacent unit.
    • (replace unit) Choose an engineer who is adjacent to an armory you've captured, replace your engineer with either a soldier or firebat.

Soldier Moves:
    • Choose a soldier, move your soldier 1 space. If you had an adjacent soldier it can be moved to the 1st's former space, and if you had a 3rd soldier that was adjacent to the 2nd, it can be moved to its' former space, and so on.
    • (once per unit) Choose a soldier, change an adjacent enemy door into an unowned door.
    • (sacrifice unit) Choose a soldier, capture an adjacent unowned door. Remove your soldier.
    • (free action)(once per unit) Choose a soldier, destroy the first unit or enemy wall in a straight line to either the left or right. Hits your units and allies.
    • (replace unit) Choose a soldier who is adjacent to an armory you've captured, replace your soldier with either an engineer or firebat.

Firebat Moves:
    • Choose a firebat, move your soldier 1 space.
    • (sacrifice unit) Choose a firebat, capture an adjacent unowned door. Remove your firebat.
    • (free action)(once per unit) Choose a firebat, destroy all units and enemy walls on and between the adjacent 3 space to either the left or right. Hits your units and allies. Changes an enemy door into an unowned door.
    • (replace unit) Choose a firebat who is adjacent to an armory you've captured, replace your firebat with either an engineer or soldier.

Teleporter: (Once per unit) When moving on a teleporter, move the unit to the opposite side of any other teleporter, but not the same one.

Unit Customization: Your army pallet can be edited. The grey box is also your private doodle pad. The ones in the map are shared. SFX and terrain damage are allowed, but either fix it in a second image or leave the game grid unchanged. Players may ignore/erase lingering effects when moving onto the tile.

Goal: Capture 5 Airlocks

Patch Notes:
1.0.0 - SPACE! See this post.

X.0.0 = Version. Each lower string resets to 0.
0.X.0 = Game mechanics change. Lower string resets to 0.
0.0.X = Revisions to wording, clarification, and other changes.

[King Zultan]

So what about that proposal Quarque made for making walls better, has anyone given it any thought because I liked it.

[a1s]

So, wait, are we supposed to evacuate now, or capture airlocks? I'm a bit lost.

[RoseHeart]

So, wait, are we supposed to evacuate now, or capture airlocks? I'm a bit lost.

That was a proposal to have Quarque's/my map be swapped in, but only I really wanted it...Instead of a new map, there was a map edit to help the game along introducing some new mechanics. The alarm was just flavortext.

I believe the game needs a further rule change. Building walls is currently almost useless, because enemy engineers ignore them completely and the two other units are rare and can shoot them down as a free action. At the same time, it is strange that engineers have no way to remove a wall

To improve this, I would propose (for next game, perhaps):

1. An Engineer can not move through a non-aligned wall (or floor).
2. Any unit can spend an action to remove a wall (or floor), except if it is black (those are "hard walls").
3. An Engineer can build as many walls (or floors) of their own color as they like.

I'm ok with 2. For 1, I want Engis to move through black barriers aswell, or there's no point(all units move through aligned walls)...otherwise 1 is fine. 3 is a hard no...this game has gone on twice the previous one, and I don't want special stalemate-ending rules to be the norm.

Overall, improving offensive options, not defensive is the priority. If we were holding off waves of weak npc enemies it would make more sense, not human players moving a couple units per real life hour.

[King Zultan]

So if engineers can move through them what's the point of them?

[RoseHeart]

To block gunfire and the movement of ranged units.

[King Zultan]

And with that info they only seem to be good against blocking movement and stopping soldiers from shooting people, as it seems like the flamethrower guys should be able shoot through them like they can the black walls.

[RoseHeart]

Correct.

[a1s]

So why not let people build more walls? They seem underpowered...

[a1s]

1.0.2: Gunna just say a unit can't move after teleporting.

That's not a clarification, that's a new rule. Please increment the version number (also, shouldn't we have voted on this?)

[RoseHeart]

Hmm, that was pretty cool. It was against the rules, but...Should I allow boomerang teleports? Discuss.

[RoseHeart]

1.0.2: Gunna just say a unit can't move after teleporting.

That's not a clarification, that's a new rule. Please increment the version number (also, shouldn't we have voted on this?)

It was a new rule created solely for the purpose of better clarity. In that grey area, I'd rather round down. (Version number is mainly a device for my own notekeeping, being a notification is just a bonus)

(I can see how if I didn't make you stop after teleporting, new players may try to go back in to do what Q did, it was—I felt —the easiest solution, where one was needed urgently short-term.)

I made the change as creator. It wasn't a proposal.

But now that I feel the intended gameplay has been more closely restored, now I am open to considering new rules for teleporting.


I think it was neat, I just worry it may not feel that way after the 10th or 100th time.

It is pro-offense, which we need, so I lean in favor slightly, depending on others' arguments.

Edit: One thing I don't like about boomerang teleports is it would be somewhat obligatory to visually or verbally explain what you did.

Edit2: I've differentiated 2nd and 3rd version places into Progressive and Conservative game mechanics. This will also apply to proposals that either stretch or simplify the game, for example the secure vent bolts would be considered conservative mechanics. It was moreso fine-tuning. Something like the remote bomb would be progressive mechanics. 4th will be revisions, etc.

[Quarque]

Nah, we ruled that boomerang teleporting is not allowed, I'm fine with keeping it that way now.