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[notquitethere]

No Lynch

Shoot me tonight if you want Toony. I just don't want another senseless mislaunch. Hector's play has been fine today. I get none of the heebie-jeebies I'm getting from Max, and none of the wariness about Vector (who has been mostly absent, which whether deliberate or not, has definitely worked in their favour for avoiding critical attention). EJ is mostly just POE for me, I'm not as firm as I'd like.

[Lenglon]

hector13

[ToonyMan]

Unvote

[ToonyMan]

I'm not voting. If you remove me that's 7 players, so if everyone votes between two options it can't be a tie.

[Lenglon]

okay. I don't think extending the day is going to be good for anyone's mental state, but we can wait for the time of day end if you want.

[hector13]

Look at what Max and Jack are doing man, as soon as my lynch looked unviable they switched to someone else, until it became viable again and they switched back!

PPE: come on man, someone is scum in this group. I want Jack gone, and have been clear and consistent about that the entire day.

If you don’t want to lynch anyone, I’ve already laid out why I think a no lynch still works against scum.

[EuchreJack]

What does it mean if Mafia chooses No Lynch?

[Lenglon]

Oh, it's super clear to me that the scum is either Max/Jack or Hector/NQT. The question is which pair. Max's behavior has been absurdly scummy, with NQT being only a little less scummy than Max. Hector vs Jack I think Hector has behaved scummier. The thing that has me leaning that the scum pair is Hector/NQT instead if Max/ Jack is the amount of stuff that was assertively claimed upfront vs stuff claimed at the back and when cornered. That's basically it.

[notquitethere]

Oh, it's super clear to me that the scum is either Max/Jack or Hector/NQT. The question is which pair. Max's behavior has been absurdly scummy, with NQT being only a little less scummy than Max. Hector vs Jack I think Hector has behaved scummier. The thing that has me leaning that the scum pair is Hector/NQT instead if Max/ Jack is the amount of stuff that was assertively claimed upfront vs stuff claimed at the back and when cornered. That's basically it.

I don't get this. Max explicitly made his claims to bait KW into targeting him. Hector had a good rationale for waiting to claim his role knowledge, as there were traps possible. Hector claimed early to get special powers from KW and Hector claimed late to trap liars.

[Knightwing64]

Hector


It’s okay Toony, your gut will be right this time, I promise

[notquitethere]

Lenglon, what you're saying is you find Max scummier than Hector. And if that's the case why aren't you voting Max out?


KW, let's launch Max. Don't you want your revenge?

[notquitethere]

What happened to that righteous burning fury? Have you forgiven that scumbag? You know he's Evil, right?

[hector13]

Oh, it's super clear to me that the scum is either Max/Jack or Hector/NQT. The question is which pair. Max's behavior has been absurdly scummy, with NQT being only a little less scummy than Max. Hector vs Jack I think Hector has behaved scummier. The thing that has me leaning that the scum pair is Hector/NQT instead if Max/ Jack is the amount of stuff that was assertively claimed upfront vs stuff claimed at the back and when cornered. That's basically it.

I’m the third scummiest and I’m the vote? Sure.

What is this “only claimed when cornered” nonsense? Are scum incapable of revealing things assertively ahead of time and town never waits until the last possible moment to claim?

PPE: goddamnit KW.

[Lenglon]

I find Max scummier than you, who is scummier than Hector, who is scummier than Jack. As a pair, I see you + hector as scummier than Max+Jack, though not by a lot. Of you and Hector, based on Hector's claims and behavior I consider Town!Hector less valuable than Town!NQT. Of the other pair, I consider Town!Max more valuable than Town!Jack. So I either vote Jack or Hector here, each judged by their pairing, not as individuals.

[EuchreJack]

So, out of the player still living, the only ones that could do the Night 1 Kill are Hector or myself.

NQT was role-blocked by Max. They both confirm this action occurred. I know Max role-blocked because I was only able to acquire Max's ability because he role-blocked.

Vector did no action, confirmed by Toony whom I believe to be Town. As I've already said, I believe Toony's Town Vigilante claim.
Toony was tracking Vector. Vector confirmed that they did no action. Apparently Vector gave up their night action to limit the Night 1 kill.

Knightwing gave me a Devil Deal. Since Knightwing gave Max a Devil Deal on Night 2, we know that both Max and myself are supporting Knightwing's claim.

So the only possible surviving players are:
Jack, who has a copy ability only confirmed by Max.
Hector, who got some role info, confirmed by nobody. In fact, apparently the roles Hector gave for Night 1 action haven't even been confirmed.
"The roles received were Mystic, Wizard, and Sage (1 each)."
Mystic was the flip of Persus13 before hector13 spoke.
Hector13 claimed himself as the Sage.
We still haven't found the Wizard.