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[Jim Groovester]

Also, I used my bonus for speaking truthfully to ensure Max did not change alignment last night.

Are you still honoring your post restriction for Day 2?

The change I experienced last night removed that restriction apparently, but I'm currently still honoring it on the off-chance that it's a temporary change, because I do not like this new look. amongst other things, I can't ensure Max doesn't change alignment in following nights right now.

I appreciate the disclosure but do I need to lynch you and/or Maximum Spin?

Could it also be that the mafia killed Persus who is just an Evil third-party here?

I asked webadict what the Evil win condition was during D1. It's to equal or outnumber the remaining players, so all players with the Evil win condition are on the same time. It would be Evil on Evil friendly fire if that was the case. I guess it's technically possible but it would be a very oddly structured setup if that was the case.

[webadict]

Back by popular demand...

Spoiler: Day 1 Vote Tracker (click to show/hide)

Vote Tracker
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4maskwolf voted ToonyMan [#41]
TricMagic voted ToonyMan [#43]
Knightwing64 voted 4maskwolf [#47]
4maskwolf voted Jim Groovester [#49]
EuchreJack voted TricMagic [#55]
Lenglon voted EuchreJack [#59]
notquitethere voted hector13 [#79]
Maximum Spin voted notquitethere [#87]
hector13 voted Jim Groovester [#95]
Vector voted EuchreJack [#108]
ToonyMan voted TricMagic [#115]
notquitethere voted Lenglon [#134]
Lenglon voted notquitethere [#138]
notquitethere voted Knightwing64 [#145]
Maximum Spin unvoted [#153]
TricMagic voted Maximum Spin [#161]
Lenglon unvoted [#175]
Lenglon voted Egan_BW [#180]
notquitethere voted ToonyMan [#187]
Egan_BW voted Maximum Spin [#194]
EuchreJack unvoted [#204]
Persus13 voted TricMagic [#209]
notquitethere unvoted [#219]
4maskwolf voted TricMagic [#240]
Egan_BW unvoted [#247]
EuchreJack voted 4maskwolf [#248]
Lenglon unvoted [#256]
TricMagic voted Maximum Spin [#269]
notquitethere voted 4maskwolf [#271]
TricMagic voted EuchreJack [#274]
Maximum Spin voted 4maskwolf [#279]
Persus13 voted Knightwing64 [#283]
Jim Groovester voted EuchreJack [#284]
Maximum Spin voted EuchreJack [#288]
Maximum Spin unvoted [#292]
Knightwing64 voted Maximum Spin [#308]
EuchreJack unvoted [#311]
ToonyMan voted Vector [#318]
ToonyMan voted 4maskwolf [#329]
TricMagic voted ToonyMan [#330]
notquitethere voted Egan_BW [#333]
hector13 voted Maximum Spin [#337]
Vector voted 4maskwolf [#346]
Egan_BW voted Maximum Spin [#347]
EuchreJack voted notquitethere [#360]
Lenglon voted notquitethere [#362]
Maximum Spin voted notquitethere [#364]
TricMagic voted ToonyMan [#379]
Jim Groovester voted 4maskwolf [#392]
notquitethere voted 4maskwolf [#404]
notquitethere voted Maximum Spin [#407]
TricMagic voted Maximum Spin [#409]
Persus13 voted hector13 [#423]
EuchreJack unvoted [#432]
EuchreJack voted ToonyMan [#433]
EuchreJack unvoted [#451]
EuchreJack voted notquitethere [#465]
EuchreJack voted hector13 [#477]
hector13 unvoted [#490]
Vector voted TricMagic [#524]
Jim Groovester voted TricMagic [#525]
Egan_BW voted TricMagic [#531]
4maskwolf voted Egan_BW [#537]
Lenglon voted hector13 [#563]
ToonyMan voted TricMagic [#577]
Lenglon voted TricMagic [#579]
4maskwolf voted Vector [#581]

[ToonyMan]

Could it also be that the mafia killed Persus who is just an Evil third-party here?

I asked webadict what the Evil win condition was during D1. It's to equal or outnumber the remaining players, so all players with the Evil win condition are on the same time. It would be Evil on Evil friendly fire if that was the case. I guess it's technically possible but it would be a very oddly structured setup if that was the case.

That is good to know, thank you.

[Lenglon]

Jim: I am still a Neutral that can only win if Good wins. My role has changed, but not my alignment. Max is unchanged from yesterday. I don't have mechanical knowledge of what Max is, I only know that it didn't change from whatever it was before.

[ToonyMan]

Back from D1 real quick:

Yeah, this looks like Mason Chat.

@Toony: Did you get stuck as Mason Chat liason again? That sucked when you had like 3 chats plus the forum going.

I'm not a mason. I'm also not in any group chats.

I performed an action last night, but it's not worth claiming right now.

I'm curious if anybody targeted me last night.

Looking at the Tric wagon I like Vector and Egan's votes the least.

I can't tell if 4mask is Good, but they responded to me questions well enough and I want to look at players I didn't focus on that were like Persus (who was Evil).

This includes Vector, Egan, Hector, and also NQT after Lenglon's claim. I still will keep note of 4mask.

Back by popular demand...

Spoiler: Day 1 Vote Tracker (click to show/hide)

Vote Tracker
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4maskwolf voted ToonyMan [#41]
TricMagic voted ToonyMan [#43]
Knightwing64 voted 4maskwolf [#47]
4maskwolf voted Jim Groovester [#49]
EuchreJack voted TricMagic [#55]
Lenglon voted EuchreJack [#59]
notquitethere voted hector13 [#79]
Maximum Spin voted notquitethere [#87]
hector13 voted Jim Groovester [#95]
Vector voted EuchreJack [#108]
ToonyMan voted TricMagic [#115]
notquitethere voted Lenglon [#134]
Lenglon voted notquitethere [#138]
notquitethere voted Knightwing64 [#145]
Maximum Spin unvoted [#153]
TricMagic voted Maximum Spin [#161]
Lenglon unvoted [#175]
Lenglon voted Egan_BW [#180]
notquitethere voted ToonyMan [#187]
Egan_BW voted Maximum Spin [#194]
EuchreJack unvoted [#204]
Persus13 voted TricMagic [#209]
notquitethere unvoted [#219]
4maskwolf voted TricMagic [#240]
Egan_BW unvoted [#247]
EuchreJack voted 4maskwolf [#248]
Lenglon unvoted [#256]
TricMagic voted Maximum Spin [#269]
notquitethere voted 4maskwolf [#271]
TricMagic voted EuchreJack [#274]
Maximum Spin voted 4maskwolf [#279]
Persus13 voted Knightwing64 [#283]
Jim Groovester voted EuchreJack [#284]
Maximum Spin voted EuchreJack [#288]
Maximum Spin unvoted [#292]
Knightwing64 voted Maximum Spin [#308]
EuchreJack unvoted [#311]
ToonyMan voted Vector [#318]
ToonyMan voted 4maskwolf [#329]
TricMagic voted ToonyMan [#330]
notquitethere voted Egan_BW [#333]
hector13 voted Maximum Spin [#337]
Vector voted 4maskwolf [#346]
Egan_BW voted Maximum Spin [#347]
EuchreJack voted notquitethere [#360]
Lenglon voted notquitethere [#362]
Maximum Spin voted notquitethere [#364]
TricMagic voted ToonyMan [#379]
Jim Groovester voted 4maskwolf [#392]
notquitethere voted 4maskwolf [#404]
notquitethere voted Maximum Spin [#407]
TricMagic voted Maximum Spin [#409]
Persus13 voted hector13 [#423]
EuchreJack unvoted [#432]
EuchreJack voted ToonyMan [#433]
EuchreJack unvoted [#451]
EuchreJack voted notquitethere [#465]
EuchreJack voted hector13 [#477]
hector13 unvoted [#490]
Vector voted TricMagic [#524]
Jim Groovester voted TricMagic [#525]
Egan_BW voted TricMagic [#531]
4maskwolf voted Egan_BW [#537]
Lenglon voted hector13 [#563]
ToonyMan voted TricMagic [#577]
Lenglon voted TricMagic [#579]
4maskwolf voted Vector [#581]

On D1 Evil!Persus voted Tric, then Knightwing, then Hector.

I think this will be helpful.

[Vector]

FYI: I'm the person who restricted kills to Hector and Persus. I can't do it again.

I'm surprised that Tric was town; I guess the meta has changed since the last time I played here. I want to go back and do a reread to check interactions for Persus in a bit. Feeling quite a lot better today, at least for now.

[ToonyMan]

FYI: I'm the person who restricted kills to Hector and Persus. I can't do it again.

Thanks for claiming. I was going to ask who did that, but I forgot.

I think that whoever restricted it to Hector/Persus gets town points.

[ToonyMan]

I was looking at the "confirmed" kills so far and they don't match.

N0 Webadict:

It was a gruesome sight.  The body was charred black, disintegrated to ashes, and as The Elder identifies the remains, They click Their tongue and make a protective motion.  And, on the Eve of the Burning Sun, too.

N1 Persus:

Persus13’s body looks more alien than the Persus13 you remember.  His features are longer, distorted as if stretched to fit someone taller and leaner.  You see that his belly has been cut open and several organs and what appear to be feathers and wings have been arranged–meticulously, you might add–in a circle around him in what appears to be some type of ritual sacrifice.

These don't look like the same kill methods to me.

[Lenglon]

4mask: your last-second vote on Vector looked to me like it was not being used as a vote, and instead was used to interact with your role. Would you like to claim what that was about or would it be better to keep it private right now?

[Maximum Spin]

I didn't touch Lenglon in any way. I roleblocked notquitethere. EuchreJack can hopefully confirm my action, which, incidentally, is pretty obviously towny.

[Lenglon]

that is interesting because:
claim: The role I was changed into was yet another Monster role

[Maximum Spin]

By the way, the flavor looks to me like Persus13 HAD feathers and wings, not that he was killed by them.

[notquitethere]

I have no idea what an Archon is in the context of this game, but there are some clues about the possible sacrifice. A ritual could be sign of a cult kill:

Cult - 4/11 previous games

Cults can either be charismatic cults (i.e. what we usually mean by the term "cult" in mafia) but they can also be ritual killers and act like a regular mafia team with a kill power. Cultist have normal town roles as well, but depending which kind of cult, they'll also may have one of the following:

Charismatic Cultist - Converts people into the cult
Cult Leader - Appears as town on inspections

Or it could be like the magic brotherhood, and possibly related to the alleged evil witch (though the only source we have on that is Max). Necromancers and Dark Magus might also do things with sacrifices.

Could there be a neutral or good sacrifice? Quite possibly! As you can see form the OP, the setting of this game is inverted. In the backstory of this game, we (town) are all benign cultists:

“We are under attack.  An Evil force has infiltrated our midst.”  The Elder turned toward the remaining Cultists, moving Their gaze between those present.

So I wouldn't be surprised if a town vig kill would have a cult-like description.


Vector, good job, but why Hector and Persus?

Max, why did you lie yesterday when you said you were against lies?

4mask and EJ what was going on with your vote switches at the end of the day?

[EuchreJack]

Claim: I got offered a Devil Deal.

I didn't touch Lenglon in any way. I roleblocked notquitethere. EuchreJack can hopefully confirm my action, which, incidentally, is pretty obviously towny.

Well, it's not Mafia, since on a certain night, it stops the Mafia Night Kill and reveals the Mafia's target.

So we Don't Lynch Max. We don't want another Tric fiasco.

[Egan_BW]

I was looking at the "confirmed" kills so far and they don't match.

N0 Webadict:

It was a gruesome sight.  The body was charred black, disintegrated to ashes, and as The Elder identifies the remains, They click Their tongue and make a protective motion.  And, on the Eve of the Burning Sun, too.

N1 Persus:

Persus13’s body looks more alien than the Persus13 you remember.  His features are longer, distorted as if stretched to fit someone taller and leaner.  You see that his belly has been cut open and several organs and what appear to be feathers and wings have been arranged–meticulously, you might add–in a circle around him in what appears to be some type of ritual sacrifice.

These don't look like the same kill methods to me.

Yes, my role flavor implied that "webadict" was killed by the Burning Sun, or at least some similar method. Compare the flavor in the OP with the flavor for Tric's elimination.