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[Knightwing64]

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[Knightwing64]

Posting roles later

[Knightwing64]

one of my roles was impossible, as the ability was to super kill everyone in the game, and the win con was for someone of a opposite alignment to be alive, so I'm not posting that one lol


(Jesiler Hospitaler: While you are dead, each other player's night action has a 50% chance of affecting a random player of a different alignment. You have two abilities: each night you can guard all the players targeting a random player's target, or up to twice per night you can copy all the players targeting another player. Actions: guard, copy.

Paraiser Wereist: If you are killed, all the players will lose their role powers. You have two abilities: up to twice per night you can cure a random player, or each night you can inspect all the players. Actions: cure, inspect.. You are a third-party: you win if you are alive when the game ends.

Love Blueiler: You yourself won't flip on dying. Each night you can target a random player's target. If they are a third-party, you convert them into being a normal Townie. Action: psych.

Backpert Mafioman: From the end of the first day, a random player shares share a chat with you yourself. You can curse another player. Action: curse.)

[NJW2000]

This is a terrible idea but in.

[ToonyMan]

Okay let's roll some roles:

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Lone Watchist: You have the following one-shot ability: you can watch all the players (one use). Action: watch. You are a third-party: you win if you are guarded
How the fuck do you win as this?

Blueilante: While you are dead, each other player's night action has a 50% chance of affecting a random player of a different alignment. You are a third-party: you win if a random player of the same alignment are dead when the game ends
Complete chaos, good chance you'll win if there's other third-parties otherwise you're fucked unless it counts yourself.

Day Anarchpert: Each night you learn the role PM of a random role which shares no actions in common with any role in the setup, but not who has it. Actions: (auto)cheat
This ability is worthless.

Guard Roleso: You won't flip on dying. You can guard all the players targeting a third of the players. Action: guard.
You won't flip on dying, instead you will show a copy of a random player's role
What...

Forensicsman Policeso: You have the following one-shot abilities: redirect (1 use), cure (1 use). You can use one ability per night
A completely normal role for once.

Frame Hunter: You can track a random player. Action: track. You are a third-party: you win if the mafia wins
This is fine if you need a mafia-ally.

Mugstruck Mugatrist: From the start of the first day, a random player of the same alignment shares share a chat with a random player
Sure.

Fumblenet Orangeatrist: If you are disabled, a third of the players will lose their role powers. While you are dead, each other player's night action has a 25% chance of affecting a random player
If zombie urist is killed, you yourself will become poisoned. You can kill another player's target. Action: kill.
If zombie urist or you yourself is voteblocked, the player responsible will die
Uh most of this role doesn't work unless Zombie Urist joins the game.

Murder Disaetic: A random player of a different alignment won't flip on dying. Each night you can target another player. If they are a third-party, you convert them into being a normal Townie. Action: psych.
This sounds funny.

Body Chief: While you are alive, each other player's night action has a 100% chance of affecting a random player of the same alignment
Complete chaos while you're alive.

Green Alien: You have the following one-shot abilities: curse (1 use), protect (1 use), befriend (1 use). You can use one ability per day
This is fine.

Police Guarder: You yourself can vote twice
Fine.

Doc Artiser: You can inspect someone once in the game, during day or night. Action: inspect. Send 'none' if you don't wish to use your ability at night
This ability is completely busted, a day inspect cop? What the fuck?

Hospital Nurse: While you are alive, each other player's night action has a 100% chance of affecting a random player of the same alignment. You are a third-party: you win when all other players are dead
Another one of those complete chaos roles, except you're a SK too.

Alpha Poisonie: You can vote twice
Hmm sounds familiar.

Allie: A random player of a different alignment will take on the role of the first person to die
Hilarious.

Random Huard: You can kill a random player. Your kills cannot be protected or be immunised against. Action: superkill.
Interesting...uh who would want to use a random targeting superkill?

Murder Doubleic: Upon dying for the first time, you will revive without flipping, and, if third-party, you will become a town-ally. You are a third-party: you win and leave the game if you yourself is dead at the end of the fourth night
So, when you die you become a town-ally, which means you wouldn't be able to win with your third-party wincon right?

Serialdropper: As long as you are alive, Tiruin cannot be befriended during the day. While you are alive, each other player's night action has a 50% chance of affecting a random player of the same alignment
Tiruin would have to join, also what's with these passive chaos abilities??

Random Cowiser: You can hide twice per game, making you immune from all the actions for the night. Action:Hide
This is fine.

Wolf Doppelger: You can block another player's target. Action: block

You can kill a third of the players. Your kills cannot be protected or be immunised against. Action: superkill. . You are a third-party: you win and leave the game if you yourself or zombie urist is alive at the start of the third day
Wow just kill a third of the players, okay.

Yellowbler: You can poison another player's target. Action: poison
This would be very strong for mafia, unless they target one of you.

Yellow Survmiller: If you are lynched, the first player to vote for you will lose their role powers
This is fine.

Busher Greenup: You are a Multiple User Personality. Up to twice per night you can MUP notquitethere: this will either copy, kill, disable or do nothing. Action: MUP
This seems useless unless NQT isn't moderating.

Murderfingers: A random player of the same alignment won't flip on dying. You can guard another player's target. Action: guard.
Murderfingers...that's a sick name.

Inspecbor Mugiser: Once per day you can receive a list of the number of the role names left in the game. Action: Census.
This could be useful maybe.

Vigher: You will take on the role of the first person to die
This is fine.

Orange Evolvter: You will take on the role of the third person to die
This is worse.

Super Roleiser: Each night you can gift a random copy of one of you yourself's abilities to a target's target
This is pointless!

Survbor: Tiruin will show up as 'mafia' when inspected and on roleflip (with this ability blanked out)
Poison Magger: Each day you can gift a random copy of one of Tiruin's abilities to all the players
What's with the Tiruin...

Guniler Mimrate: Upon dying for the first time, you will revive without flipping, and will become a mafia-ally. You can voteblock a random player. Action: voteblock.
Evil.

One-shot Missionet: You have the following one-shot ability: you can copy all the players's target (one use). Action: copy
Holy shit...what??

Whitebler Randomilante: If Dariush is killed, Dariush will become infected
Excellent.

The roles that have "each other player's night action has a % chance of affecting a random player of a X alignment" sounds really annoying.

[NJW2000]

I think NQT will replace the names in the hen with names of people actually playing, so person specific roles on the lines of captain or condemnor appear

[notquitethere]

Yeah 'Tiruin', 'Zombie Urist' etc are just used as dummy names in the list, and would be populated with the actual players. That way you can have ally and lover type roles generated.

[notquitethere]

One-shot Missionet: You have the following one-shot ability: you can copy all the players's target (one use). Action: copy
Holy shit...what??

The grammar is a bug, but what I think this does is for all players being targeted by someone, it would copy their action. Powerful, but probably not game-ending.

The roles that have "each other player's night action has a % chance of affecting a random player of a X alignment" sounds really annoying.

Yeah probably a bit annoying. It's an emergent design space between a couple of normal roles that doesn't quite work. I think I need to tweak the chances, because the list of possible actions is huge whereas the list of passive stuff like this is much smaller, so even though roles are most likely to have an action, each given action is much rarer than some of the weirder passive powers.

[Jim Groovester]

In.

[NJW2000]

Can I ask if there've been any additions/changes to the generator since this post?

The diguised roleflip thing seems a bit too common. It's also not clear what kind of third party you flip as when it says something like "You will show up as 'third party' on roleflip (with this ability blanked out)".
There's also an ambiguity with roles that make other people flip in obscured or changed ways - it says "X will flip as third party with this ability blanked out", but is it visible on you?

The roles that do nothing but screw with censuses don't seem fun, but they make logical sense.


Would be ok with a totally random initial setup with unexpected third parties, especially if there were fewer "randomize all night action" roles. Trying to train myself not to care about having a weak or useless role.

[FallacyofUrist]

In. I think we need at least 9 players for a fun setup, so I'll contribute to that.

[notquitethere]

Can I ask if there've been any additions/changes to the generator since this post?

The diguised roleflip thing seems a bit too common. It's also not clear what kind of third party you flip as when it says something like "You will show up as 'third party' on roleflip (with this ability blanked out)".
There's also an ambiguity with roles that make other people flip in obscured or changed ways - it says "X will flip as third party with this ability blanked out", but is it visible on you?

The roles that do nothing but screw with censuses don't seem fun, but they make logical sense.


Would be ok with a totally random initial setup with unexpected third parties, especially if there were fewer "randomize all night action" roles. Trying to train myself not to care about having a weak or useless role.

Thanks for the feedback. I've just updated the source with a slightly more balanced set of possibilities, but I think it still needs work. If I can get it spitting out something nice and variable I would be tempted to go 100% random (third parties included) or maybe, like gen up three possible random states and run the most viable of the three.

Working on the ambiguity problem now...

[notquitethere]

In. I think we need at least 9 players for a fun setup, so I'll contribute to that.

Good to have you aboard.

It's also not clear what kind of third party you flip as when it says something like "You will show up as 'third party' on roleflip (with this ability blanked out)".
There's also an ambiguity with roles that make other people flip in obscured or changed ways - it says "X will flip as third party with this ability blanked out", but is it visible on you?

Actually, I think these are better clarified outside of the generator: you would show up with a newly generated third party role. And yes, if you died, then on your flip people would learn that X's flip was a fake. I'll add some clarifications in the OP.

[notquitethere]

I've update the source again with loads more Xylbot-inspired roles, increasing the variation. Here's some new content:

Super Poisoner: You can feed Maximum Spin each night, which will either cure them or poison them (75/25 chance). Actions: Bake

Secret Busup: Whenever someone targets you during the night, you will use the same ability back at FallacyofUrist. Up to twice per day you can infect half the players targeting a random player's target. Action: infect

Poison Redirector: If you don't act during the night, you will poison yourself at the end of the phase

Fallenbor Blackic: When the first player with an infect action dies, you gain their ability.

You have the following one-shot ability: you can delay all the players (one use). Action: delay . You are a third-party: you win if you are dead when the game ends

[TricMagic]

Random Madcat: If you die, player will gain your role ((instead of)) their own.. Each night you can poison another player. Action: poison

Love Nurse: Up to twice per day you can infect another player. Action: infect
Any ability directly targeting you, will target a random player of the same alignment as well as. You won't flip on dying
Each night you can befriend all the players targeting all the players. Action: befriend
You can feed a random player each day, which will either protect them or kill them (75/25 chance). Actions: Bake

Wolf Hunter: You have a one-shot ability. You can feed a target up to twice per day, which will either frame them or voteblock them (75/25 chance). Actions: Bake (1 use)

Jack Foo: Up to twice per day you can watch a random player's target. Action: watch
You are an identical twin with player, but your twin doesn't know about you. Half actions targeting one of you will target the other instead. Each day you can voteblock half the players targeting a random player. Action: voteblock
Up to twice per day you can protect a random player. Action: protect
Each night you can block another player. Action: block
Each day you can redirect all the players. Action: redirect

God Ganger: Up to twice per day you can evolve a random player's target. Action: evolve

Gamma Irradiateor: Each night you can irradiate a random player. Action: irradiate
While you are alive, FallacyofUrist will have two votes (which may be blocked/stolen separately). Each day you can irradiate a random player's target. Action: irradiate
Each day you can consume another player. Action: consume . You are a third-party: you win and leave the game if you are alive at the end of the first day

Corrupt Wolf: Each night you can cure another player. Action: cure

Doc Exchangeist: Each night you can exchange another player. Action: exchange

Greeniler: Each day you can protect another player's target. Action: protect

Lonebor Doppelfingers: Each day you can rob all the players. Action: rob


Behold the strangeness. Also find it fun Fallacy is in the generator.