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[hector13]

I'm writing a big post.

Must be a huge post.

I’ve been wanting to make a joke about long novels for so long but I also don’t know if Toony is okay, because apparently my thought process is “oh hey Toony must be taking a lot of care and atten- oh gosh he’s fallen and hurt himself and has been rushed to hospital.”

[ToonyMan]

I'm writing a big post.

Must be a huge post.

I've spent a lot of time reading the thread too so that takes up a lot of time.

Also Leafsnail wanted to watch stuff while I was doing this so that didn't help.

I'm not really proud of this compared to Roguelike Mafia or something. I would say confidence level is 60%.


*ahem*

I've been looking at player's posts from D1 to get a good idea how I feel about them.

I'm skipping posts when I have nothing to say about them.

I'm assuming Tric isn't lying about who they said they were, which I think is a given at this point.

Spoiler: Knightwing (click to show/hide)

#35 - KW says good morning.

A lot of people liked this post, like Jim. I think it's neutral.

#39 - Says their role is pretty shitty.

I would agree after seeing their claim.

#82 - Doesn't really have much to say. "My role is useless other then proving my innocence to other players, so, I’m kinda a non factor. I’m not of high importance, unless having a confirmed townie is awesome"

I think this is a townie post.

#135 - Starts prodding FoU.

I find this post odd. Maybe it's because KW is actually trying to do something.

Later on at the start of Day 2 KW would start accusing Jim of being mafia or third-party, it feels unnatural.

There's really not that much here.

VERDICT: WHO THE FUCK KNOWS, LET'S SAY TOWN

Spoiler: NJW (click to show/hide)

#36 - NJW asks Hector, Jim, and Toony some questions.

The questions are fine. I'm interested that he asks Jim how he's going to handle Knightwing in this game.

#48 - Doesn't like Hector talking about third-parties.

#62 - Speculates that the setup may be a mafia + mally with possibly a third-party. Conspiracy theories that Hector is third-party or mally based on their posts so far.

I don't really see Hector as third-party here.

#65 - Is suspicious of Hector for leaping to conclusions about the number of scum members. Finds it odd that Hector thinks mafia are solo.

I don't understand why NJW finds Hector suspicious here when they just speculated that the setup may be solo mafia as well.

#68 - Votes TricMagic for lying about their role, although it's soon clarified this was just an honest mistake.

#79 - Doesn't trust Tric, but might be okay with letting Tric use their magnet tonight provided we can trust Toony.

Actually sensible point from NJW.

#81 - NJW's infamous conspiracy theory post about FoU and Hector. They also ask Toony if this looks like FoU trying to secretly communicate with them when Web was mally.

NJW is accusing FoU of being a mally here. I actually agreed with them after re-reading FoU's first post.

#91 - Backs off of Tric when Toony says no.

#117 - Reads. Knightwing town. Jim probably town. Tric third-party. Can't read Max or Toony. Thinks Hector and FoU are scum. Votes FoU for basically not having done anything yet.

#124 - In response to Hector's defense of FoU: "Oh, I'm not certain about the mally thing, I made that pretty clear. I'm going after FoU because they look like scum."

Hrrrrrmmmmmmmm. Bad.

#131 - "Also for me, a bit of POE, I guess... Mostly sure of Jim and Knightwing, and don't want to elim Hector just yet because some stuff he said has town energy. Possibly Max and Toony are scum wagoning on some weird garden path I've wandered down, but that would probably look as bad for them as for me, if not worse?"

It sure would be bad if Toony and Max both had confirmable actions on N1 and thus would be difficult players to get votes on D2.

VERDICT: PROBABLY MAFIA

Spoiler: Hector (click to show/hide)

#38 - Suspiciously asks Tric what kind of third-party they are, because it would be weird if this setup was 2 mafia with him in it. Also says they're most comfortable reading FoU and least comfortable reading Max.

This statement follows true when they defend FoU later in the day as being town.

#43 - Doesn't like Tric still. Also says: "It seems more likely to me that there’s one scum, and Tric is able to be recruited by them, possibly also by town to maybe kinda sorta balance it out?"

I agree with this quote, although it's later clarified that Tric would just leave the game on winning.

I also think this post is from a town POV.

#51 - Hector softclaims their ability isn't very good. Also continues theorizing about the setup, such as maybe the mafia have a recruit for Tric the same way Toony has a recruit.

This is true in their claim later and looks natural.

I think if mafia have a recruit as well that heavily implies there's just one mafia.

#63 - Is suspicious that Tric claims the global attract after Toony claims the random psych. "Euch. If anything I suppose it makes you more suspicious if you’re still alive on D2. Probably. *sigh*" Keeps talking about third-parties with NJW.

It's true.

#69 - More back-and-forth with NJW. Wants a good idea of how many scum players there are.

I think this is reasonable.

#75 - Willing to give Tric the benefit of the doubt. Says that town are guaranteed not to be killed N1 if Tric uses their global attract too.

#80 - Claims they'll get information that isn't about Tric.

This didn't happen. Tric global attracted Hector to them just like everybody else, what gives?

#83 - Gets really defensive when NJW accuses FoU of trying to communicate with Hector. "I mean you seem hyper-focused on this mafia and mafia ally thing. Why are we to think you’re not telegraphing that you’re the ally to your scum team?"

I don't really like this post.

#105 - Defends FoU more citing past experience with them. Is disinclined to think FoU is scum. Is leaning towards NJW and maybe Jim as scum.

This post is better.

#114 - Votes NJW after talking with Max.

I think this is a pretty natural progression.

#121 - Large defense of FoU. Looks genuinely angry at NJW over the course of the game so far.

This is a very good post. Good town. Hector is correct that NJW's argument relies on the fact that FoU would be a mally, not mafia. I feel bad about keeping my vote on FoU honestly after they started posting more.

#134 - Continues to defend FoU from NJW. "FoU is actually inviting pressure by asking players to vote for him if they have a strong case, otherwise it is hugely suspicious, because building a strong case and only inviting others to take it up is really bad, as is the other side of that coin, voting someone for poor reasoning. Sure, voting people for voting you is no bueno, but examining cases against you for strengths and weaknesses is fine, and half the town is currently on his wagon."

VERDICT: VERY TOWN

Spoiler: Tric (click to show/hide)

#41 - "I win once I'm befriended. After which I'll work towards the goals of the one to befriend me."

I don't know why Tric says this because it's later clarified by NQT (#73) that he would just leave the game upon winning.

We have two players that can befriend Tric: Knightwing and Jim. I think this is reasonable evidence that if there's mafia inside them then it's probably only one of them. I actually think it's more likely to be Jim here, but Jim wouldn't be with NJW. Knightwing would be with NJW here. I think Jim is always the pick here if NJW is town.

I need to think about Jim more as I make this post.

VERDICT: TOWN (thanks to me)

Spoiler: Max (click to show/hide)

#46 - Max is happy with their role. Says there's one thing in their role they should probably share.

This lines up with their future claim. It is a good role, and they do share shortly after that their flip will be random.

I think this post is pretty town.

#53 - Agrees with Toony that Knightwing and Hector are town. Doesn't believe Tric. Tells FoU their flip will be completely fake.

#61 - "I'm more than happy to let Tric sit for now, anyway, since, if he's telling the truth, he probably dies n1 by attracting the kill. That is what you mean, right, Tric?"

This is exactly what happened.

#79 - Doesn't like the plan of Tric using their global attract and Toony converting them. "To make a long story short, following it makes n1 a wash for everyone else, since nobody can get any information that ISN'T about Tric, and it still probably ends in his death unless the mafia can either get around it or inexplicably decide not to kill him. Is essentially wasting a night just for that worth it? To me, the answer is obviously no."

I disagree. Plus Max weren't you able to quest on N1 anyway? You got goodies while the rest of town wasn't able to do much besides me.

#85 - "Knightwing is town." Could buy that Fallacy or Hector are scum, but doesn't think FoU can be that subtle with the "10-4" thing.

#104 - Thinks Jim seems pretty town after their opening posts. Thinks FoU is the correct lynch currently, but doesn't buy the signalling hypothesis. Is still suspicious of NJW.

#109 - Max argues with Hector that FoU may really be a mally. Although they're not happy with NJW still, but they have to pick one or the other.

#120 - Isn't sure about Toony. Is more or less onboard with the FoU lynch but doesn't want to vote after Armed Forces.

#127 - Sort of reluctantly votes FoU.

I don't really like Max's D1 play here, but I don't see how they could be Tric's killer. I don't think they killed Tric.

VERDICT: TOWN?

Spoiler: FallacyofUrist (click to show/hide)

#50 - Tells Max they should claim any kind of roleflip alteration or global effect immediately.

I feel like this is good evidence that FoU had no roleflip alteration of their own if they're telling Max they should speak up about it.

#100 - Agrees with Toony that Jim is town.

#110 - Thinks it's hilarious players would even consider the idea that they were signaling. "In any case, I think my strategy for the time being will be to try and figure out which players were most opportunistic about using my behavior as a reason to vote. The players most eager to either bandwagon and avoid suspicion and/or take the easiest available case, that is to say."

This is a pretty town post, especially since they do follow up after.

#129 - Doesn't like Max's vote on them and votes Max for it.

I think I agree with FoU. Max's vote was pretty weak.

#141 - Big reads post from FoU.

Fallacy doesn't make this post if they want to die.

#151 - FoU makes a case against NJW.

Fallacy doesn't make this post if they are willing to die.

#156 - FoU makes a case against Toony while voting them. Really wants Toony over NJW. Refuses to claim.

I don't believe a mafia or even mally FoU would dogmatically try to get me executed here. They're being really really stubborn.

VERDICT: TOWN

Spoiler: Jim (click to show/hide)

#95 - First actual post from Jim. Reads Knightwing as town just from their first "Good morning" post. Is surprised they agree with NJW for once about Hector worrying too much about third-parties.

Kind of weird since NJW was talking just as much about third-parties as Hector.

#97 - Claims their only action is a super befriendist for anyone who targets NJW. They will be doing this action every night they are able to.

I get strong town reads from this post. Plus the befriend ability means they 75% of the time tell whoever targets NJW their alignment right? That would be quite bad if they told someone they're mafia. The way they said "This is my only action so I will be doing this every night I am able." really feels like that's what they'll be doing, as opposed to like mafiakilling or something.

Does a super befriendist mean it can't be redirected or blocked?

#103 - Thinks Knightwing is town. Doesn't like Hector talking about TPs. Also finds FoU's first post odd. "Feeling okay about Knightwing64, I believe TricMagic, ToonyMan feels okay, Maximum Spin feels okay, NJW2000 also feels okay somehow. hector13 and FallacyofUrist don't feel as okay but I'm not confident in labeling hector13 scum. I think in this scenario I'm most okay with FallacyofUrist at the current moment."

#128 - Thinks Hector leans town for defending FoU passionately. "I think this leaves me with NJW2000 and FoU as my choices. I know I said last night I was okay with NJW2000. He gets to live with the consequences of pushing absolute bullshit meritless cases while being scum and now gets to suffer through me wondering whether any weakness in any case he pushes or presents is malicious or not."

I think this is a town post.

Jim could have killed Tric. I think they would have to be mafia with Max though, but it doesn't really make sense to me.

I don't really feel like they're hiding anything.

VERDICT: TOWN?

Blergh. So just reading D1 again I have some points:

1. Hector is town. I don't believe mafia!Hector impassionately attacks NJW over FoU.
2. NJW and Hector talk a lot about the setup. NJW tries to spin it that Hector is mafia that wants to talk about third-parties instead (which people like Jim agree with), but I don't really see that.
3. Max's pressure on FoU is weaksauce and I don't like how they disagree with Tric using their global attract on D1 when they have a quest ability they'd be able to use anyway. This seems extremely selfless of Max to care about what the rest of town would be able to do.
4. I like Jim.
5. FoU is town.

I feel like mafia is NJW + Knightwing here.

If that's incorrect, then I think it would have to be Knightwing or Jim + Max.

Italics would be a player that is maybe supporting the main player.

I don't really see anything else. Maybe I'm blind.

I am genuinely deeply unsure. You, Max and Jim have for D1 and D2 been presenting minimal cases, barely pressuring anyone, picking over mechanical information instead of considering people's daygame, and following a broad and obvious consensus with little evidence of thinking it through. Naturally, you can't all be scum, but I'm hard pressed to say which of the three of you looks worst, especially as I can't really read Max.

I'll give you a hint: If you didn't kill Tric then Jim or Knightwing did. Hector could have too, but I don't agree with that.

Why aren't you trying to push a vote on another player?

Hector has been saying dubious things based on dubious arguments from time to time, but he does seem marginally more invested in the game. I think this is town!Knightwing, otherwise KW's scum game has finally clicked a little, at least to the point of not self-destructing.

So then that leaves Jim for you.

[ToonyMan]

I don't really have a full post for D2, but here's some thoughts I'm having for the current day:

I'm not 100% sold on NJW being mafia still, however I don't really see any strong reasoning not to vote them and just want to have something to point back to if we're wrong.

I don't strongly believe this is a two-mafia setup and don't think it's mylo anyway. I do think there's two non-town players left currently.

NJW has said a lot of hypocritical stuff this game, but they looked super confused at the start of D2 which doesn't really make sense to me if they're mafia. They first say they think they were disabled and then later say they voteblocked Hector and are confused why this isn't the case. It's like the idea of Tric using their global attract went right over their head. Are they purposely playing dumb here?

I say this specifically because mafia would not have tried to kill Tric, so they would obviously fucking know they got redirected to Tric instead thanks to the global attract. So either NJW isn't mafia or they're acting dumb to look town. It's kind of convincing.

I would like to stick up for NJW more like this, but their theory on Hector not only being mafia, but also planning some insane bus with FoU really drives me crazy. Like sure I can see NJW wanting to argue that Hector is mafia. Hector could have killed Tric after all. Hector seemed quite sure that Tric used their global attract. Hector was right about FoU being town. These are all things mafia would be sure of. But NJW wants to be his odd-ass self and I just don't understand the Hector-FoU case he's trying instead.

My reads
Hector: town or mafia, more likely town
Jim : town or mafia, more likely town
Max : probably town
Knightwing : town or mafia or third-party, I don't know
NJW : mafia?

[ToonyMan]

I'm tired. Why is a day deadline at like 2am on a Sunday?

[Jim Groovester]

Does a super befriendist mean it can't be redirected or blocked?

Nay. The abilities in my original role (prior to receiving the gift from Maximum Spin) are exactly what I claimed. I don't know what makes a befriendist super.

4. I like Jim.

I would like to stick up for NJW more like this, but their theory on Hector not only being mafia, but also planning some insane bus with FoU really drives me crazy. Like sure I can see NJW wanting to argue that Hector is mafia. Hector could have killed Tric after all. Hector seemed quite sure that Tric used their global attract. Hector was right about FoU being town. These are all things mafia would be sure of. But NJW wants to be his odd-ass self and I just don't understand the Hector-FoU case he's trying instead.

If NJW2000 made a case on Day 2 that made sense I probably might have a more favorable read of him and might direct my attention more towards you and Maximum Spin but arguing that FoU was actually a death miller and that hector13's defense of FoU was not genuine and instead actually suggests that hector13 is FoU's partner is also way too out there for me. I have to severely contradict my understanding of the game a lot for that to make plausible.

Would scum NJW2000 push pure nonsense arguments? Having been the target of one of these pure nonsense arguments in Armed Forces Mafia, the answer is yes.

NJW has said a lot of hypocritical stuff this game, but they looked super confused at the start of D2 which doesn't really make sense to me if they're mafia. They first say they think they were disabled and then later say they voteblocked Hector and are confused why this isn't the case. It's like the idea of Tric using their global attract went right over their head. Are they purposely playing dumb here?

I say this specifically because mafia would not have tried to kill Tric, so they would obviously fucking know they got redirected to Tric instead thanks to the global attract. So either NJW isn't mafia or they're acting dumb to look town. It's kind of convincing.

The confusion could be genuine if NJW2000's claim is legitimate and he performed claimed action as claimed and had to spend a few more computational cycles than usual to eventually come to the right conclusion about what happened during N1. If he's scum he would have to have a partner who actually performed the kill, however.

I'm tired. Why is a day deadline at like 2am on a Sunday?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[ToonyMan]

Bleeeh. I can't make myself vote before going to bed.

I'm going to say NJW was trying to play dumb, because they were completely aware of Tric's global attract on D1 and made reference to it. No way they wouldn't think Tric used it. NJW initially thinks Tric used their disable on him...for some reason?? I don't get it.

[hector13]

Pretty sure Tric said they would use the disable on NJW if FoU flipped town at some point on D1.

[ToonyMan]

Pretty sure Tric said they would use the disable on NJW if FoU flipped town at some point on D1.

Hmm yeah, that sounds right. Did NJW just assume Tric would target him to follow the "get befriended by Jim" plan?

[hector13]

Pretty sure Tric said they would use the disable on NJW if FoU flipped town at some point on D1.

Hmm yeah, that sounds right. Did NJW just assume Tric would target him to follow the "get befriended by Jim" plan?

I mean that was Tric’a wincon at the time, NJW possibly thought Tric would play to it.

Not sure how he didn’t notice the various indicators that Tric had used his attract though, most notable of which is he flipped town.

[notquitethere]

Vote Count
- Maximum Spin
- ToonyMan -
- KnightWing64
- NJW2000 - Hector13, Jim Groovester [2]
- Jim Groovester
- Hector13
- No Launch - NJW2000 [1]

The code was still borked and the testers were no closer to finding the miscreants injecting elf-supremacy into the Dwarf Universe generators. Increasingly frustrated by his poor bug testing, NJW2000 was put forward for a performance review. He was summarily dismissed, but there was no indication that he was a saboteur.

NJW2000 has been launched.

Spoiler: Purple Changecop (click to show/hide)

During the night you can negate another player. Action: negate

You are town.

Night Two has begun. You have 24 hours to send your actions, until 9am BST If you don't want to act, please tell me.

[notquitethere]

Toony came into the office to find his computer confiscated. He was forced to hand in his company T-shirt, lanyard and rubber dwarf hammer. Was he guilty of any misconduct? Almost certainly not, but out of a job he was.

Toony has been killed.

Spoiler: Forensics Purpleic (click to show/hide)

During the night you can target a random player. If they are a third-party, you convert them into being a normal Townie. Action: psych

You are town.

DAY THREE

Spoiler: Current Source Code (click to show/hide)

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"rare": ["You can learn who targets #you# with a #night# action. Action: Patrol","#rarer#", "You can learn the #details# of #another player#. Action: inspect", "You can kill #someone#. Your kills cannot be protected or be immunised against. Action: superkill", "You can hide #once# per game, making you immune from #all# the actions for the #night#. Action: Hide", "You show up as having the ability to #verb1# in censuses", "#once.capitalize# per #day# you can receive a list of #all1# the #list items# left in the game. Action: Census", "During the #night# you #can# gift a random #gift# to #someone#. Action: Gift", "You are a Multiple User Personality. During the #night# you can MUP #someone#: this will either #verb1#, #verb2#, #verb3# or do nothing. Action: MUP", "During the #night# you can target #another# #player#. If they are a third-party, you convert them into being a normal Townie. Action: psych", "During the #night# you learn the role PM of #a random role# in the setup, but not who has it. Actions: (auto)cheat", "You can prime #someone#, or ignite #all# the #primed# players. Actions: Prime/Ignite", "During the #night# you can give #someone# a reflection shield. Any other actions targeting that player will be reflected back#at them#. Action: Reflect", "You may shuffle the setup, exchanging #two# random #player#s' roles. You #don't know# whose roles were exchanged. Actions: Shuffle", "You can suicide-bomb #someone# during the day, #harm#ing you and your target(s). Actions: (day)suicidebomb", "You can quest each #night#: you have a one in #two# chance of gaining a new ability, and #all# actions targeting you will fail. Action: Quest", "You may hack #another player#'s action, modifying it randomly. Actions: Hack", "You can feed #someone# each #night#, which will either #verb1# them or #harm# them (#50/50# chance). Actions: Bake", "You can resurrect #another player# at the cost of your own life. Action: Raise", "#once.capitalize# per #day# you can #autopsy# a dead player. Action: #autopsy#","You can transform into #secondrole#. Action: Transform.<br /><br />#secondrole#: #power#"],
"autopsy": ["defile", "autopsy", "resurrect", "reincarnate", "bury", "channel", "medium"],
"rarer": ["During the #night# you automatically #verb1# a random player. Action: #verb1#(auto)", "You can #verb1# #someone#. If you target the same player twice, they will be #harm.ed#. Action: #verb1#"],
"at them": ["", " at them", " at a random player", " at #person#"],
"don't know": ["don't know", "know", "only know one of the players"],
"can" : ["can","will automatically"],
"primed": ["primed", "primed or #verb.ed#", "#verb.ed#"],
"verb": ["inspect", "kill", "protect", "disable", "vote-steal", "drain", "block", "redirect", "track", "watch", "frame", "CPR", "delay", "befriend", "poison", "infect", "cure", "copy", "guard", "voteblock", "eavesdrop", "abduct", "curse", "randomize", "rob", "#harm#","evolve","morph","consume","irradiate","pry","exchange","negate","attract"],
"50/50": ["50/50", "25/75", "75/25"],
"harm": ["kill","kill","kill", "poison", "infect", "voteblock", "eradicate"],
"details": ["role name", "alignment", "actions owned"],
"last": ["last", "first", "second"],
"once": ["once", "once", "twice"],
"a random role": ["a random role", "the next upcoming role", "a random role which shares no actions in common with any role", "two players (one of which is a lie)"],
"all1": ["#all#", "the number of"],
"all": ["all", "all", "a random half of", "a random third of"],
"list items": ["alignments", "third parties", "role names", "possible player actions", "players who have a #verb# ability"],
"player": ["player", "player", "player's target"],
"someone": ["a target", "#a random player#", "#someone#'s target", "#all# the players", "#all# the players targeting #someone#", "#person#"],
"suffer": ["die", "have their alignment revealed", "lose their role powers", "give away their role to #a random player#", "become poisoned", "become infected"],
"another": ["another", "another", "a random"],
"peeked": ["when inspected", "on roleflip (with this ability blanked out)", "when inspected and on roleflip (with this ability blanked out)"],
"name": ["#adj.capitalize# #sylaa.capitalize##sylb#", "#sylaa.capitalize##sylb#", "#adj.capitalize# #sylaa.capitalize##sylb#", "#sylaa.capitalize##sylb# #sylaa.capitalize##sylb#", "#adj.capitalize# #verb1.capitalize##er#", "#adj.capitalize# #noun.capitalize#"],
"er": ["er", "or", "ist"],
"thirdparty": ["you win if #you# are #alive# when the game ends", "you win and leave the game if #you are# #alive# at the #start# of the #third# #night#", "you win when #all# other players are dead", "you win if the #alignment# wins", "you win if you are #lynched#"],
"first": ["first", "first", "#third#"],
"third": ["first", "second", "third", "third", "#fourth#"],
"fourth" : ["fourth","fourth","fifth"],
"two": ["two", "three", "four"],
"first time": ["first time", "first time", "first two times"],
"start": ["start", "end"],
"night": ["night", "night", "night", "day"],
"day": ["#night#", "day", "game"],
"lynched": ["lynched", "killed", "#verb.ed#"],
"alive": ["alive", "alive", "alive", "dead"],
"you are": ["#person# is",
"you are", "#person# or #person# is"
],
"sylaa": ["#adj#", "#syla#"],
"adj": ["fallen", "deep", "depressed", "secret", "police", "alpha", "beta", "omega", "corrupt", "gamma", "doc", "role", "cult", "serial", "double", "frame", "god", "jack", "poison", "random", "super", "crazed", "day", "retired", "bus", "faith", "anti", "mad", "one-shot", "wolf", "#verb1#", "friendly", "hospital", "green", "red", "blue", "yellow", "grey", "black", "white", "orange", "purple", "eaves", "change", "body", "gun", "insane", "forensics", "FBI", "lone", "love", "arson", "murder"],
"syla": ["gho", "go", "fish", "mast", "bak", "advo", "cook", "comput", "hack", "were", "bomb", "ascet", "psycho", "mafio", "nin", "inspec", "psychi", "bureau", "surv", "town", "vig", "art", "fat", "all", "ma", "rev", "disa", "inven", "sib", "asc", "copy", "neigh", "direc", "hu", "missio", "para", "cow", "chea", "anarch", "doppel", "ex", "fumble", "evolv", "prof", "hit", "jes", "lynch", "stalk", "scient", "magist", "mag", "mim", "motiva", "mug", "back", "chain"],
"sylb": ["lem", "ul", "mind", "ic", "net", "cate", "path", "rate", "ja", "her", "ilante", "tor", "crat", "atrist", "so", "ivor", "ter", "ie", "ist", "iser", "son", "#noun#", "bler", "ling", "etic", "cat", "bor", "man", "nary", "noid", "ard", "pert", "fingers", "#er#", "iler", "struck", "ger", "up", "saw", "ardly"],
"noun": ["foo", "ghoul", "#noun#'s", "traitor", "thief", "chief", "voter", "wolf", "nurse", "pimp", "cop", "fiend", "saint", "leader", "driver", "healer", "monk", "hunter", "alien", "angel", "shield", "owner", "dropper", "witch", "miller", "deva", "ganger", "guard", "smith", "clown"],
"alignment+": ["#alignment#", "#alignment#", "#alignment#", "#alignment#", "null", "the inspector's alignment"],
"alignment": ["town", "mafia", "third party"],
"you": ["you", "you", "you", "#a random player#", "#person#"],
"person": ["you yourself","Maximum Spin","ToonyMan","TricMagic","hector13","KnightWing64","NJW2000","Jim Groovester","FallacyofUrist"],
"gift": ["one-shot ability", "copy of one of #person#'s abilities", "piece of fruit", "newly generated ability"]
}

The day will end 14th September 2022, 3PM BST, unless majority is voting for any player or No Lynch. Hammer at 3. Ties at end of day are decided randomly

Alive
- Maximum Spin
- KnightWing64
- Jim Groovester
- Hector13

Reminder: so long as more than one team can still win, the game continues.

[hector13]

*narrows eyes*

Right. Toony’s D1 analysis put KW on the block, but he also has a claimed befriend. Can anyone confirm this?

Can anyone confirm Jim’s befriend?

Can anyone confirm receiving a gift from Max?

My action was tremendously useful.

I learned my own role name.

[Knightwing64]

AGAIN

ARE YOU SERIOUS

BOTH BEFRIEND TARGETS DIED

Also, This kinda reaffirms my suspicion of Jim, he claims befriend, I don’t think there would be two befrienders in a game, both of the people he voted for ended up town, so unless somebody actually claims to have gotten a confirmed Jim town befriend message, I know where my vote is going.

[Knightwing64]

Also also, Toony said that the mafia is either em, or Jim plus Max, and max hasn’t been posting a lot. And now that I think more on it, I’m more confident about my theory. I believe hector is town. Jim or max are mafia/third party.

Jim

[Jim Groovester]

I attempted to bake for NJW2000 but with him being dead it probably didn't do anything. I also received another gift; I can learn the role PM of any role that has no abilities in common with any other role, but not who has it. I guess it's useful for catching fakeclaims I guess.

If it's 2v2 then unless any of you have something up your sleeves the scum team can tie the vote and there isn't much we can do to stop that from happening.

Ties at end of day are decided randomly

Actually that's incredibly dangerous for the scum team so even if it is 2v2 they still have to play.

If it's 2v2 then I'm looking at a hector13/Knightwing64, hector13/Maximum Spin, or a Maximum Spin/Knightwing64 team and each of them are plausible but neither of them leap out to me as likelier than the others.

If it's solo scum then it could easily be any of hector13, Knightwing64, or Maximum Spin, although of the three Knightwing64 pops out to me as the more likely choice. hector13 could still be solo scum and his defense of FoU on Day 1 could easily be solo scum work since he has no team to give away and therefore can act in a much townier manner than if he had a team. I think here Maximum Spin is less likely to be solo scum since he has a confirmable N1 action. (The action being: no gifts were given out on D1, he did something N1, D2 and D3 gifts are given out).

AGAIN

ARE YOU SERIOUS

BOTH BEFRIEND TARGETS DIED

Why did you pick ToonyMan to befriend?

Also, This kinda reaffirms my suspicion of Jim, he claims befriend, I don’t think there would be two befrienders in a game, both of the people he voted for ended up town, so unless somebody actually claims to have gotten a confirmed Jim town befriend message, I know where my vote is going.

WIFOM.

Also also, Toony said that the mafia is either em, or Jim plus Max, and max hasn’t been posting a lot. And now that I think more on it, I’m more confident about my theory. I believe hector is town. Jim or max are mafia/third party.

Jim

Day's just started but Knightwing64's got it all figured out.

I feel like if I shot Knightwing64 purely based on feel right here it would be the right choice and that if I reread the game (which I'm going to go do) I'll probably still end up voting Knightwing64.