Why are people suspicious of Jim? Maybe I can't read Jim well at all but I think he's town.
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Not sure. This one does seem like Town Jim...
Which means it's definitely scum Jim.
Look, I've been wrong about this before in the past, I'm so borderline here. Someone give me a sanity check. Wuba, Jim, Anyone Else is the emotional blackmail scum!KW, or just lazy town!KW?
Ehhhh, that's not the real emotional blackmail scumplay yet, but he hasn't convinced me that he's Town either.
You do realize that NQT also voted Knightwing too, right? That means at least two Townies voted Knightwing, no matter what. So why is only Toony the one that's being manipulated by Max and I? That's a weird take.
Something I already addressed:
With a large part of Town-base even voting for Knightwing, it'd be hard to readily back interest to the two of you, since the majority of Town easily fell-in to the line-of-thinking Knightwing might've been scum.
Toony and NQT have outright voted for Knightwing, but if you look at the rest of Town's post attitudes toward Knigtwing besides myself, you'll see EVERYONE at this point suspects Knightwing due to the wagon you and Max set up. Not just "Toony" as you're trying slyly to frame it. If you took at least a few seconds to read my other post right after my readslist, you wouldn't have asked this question in the first place.
I dunno, it just feels like you hard committed to the Max/web line because it lets you not have to really defend your vote very hard when questioned on it.
Except I literally have been defending it hard, when questioned about or criticized about it multiple times? It's strange that you even say this, unless it's simply an attempt at soft misdirection.
And you have GM'd most of the Mafia games I've been in the past, webadict. You should by now that I never usually go out this strong on D1 at all. I'd only do this if something really tac'd my suspicions, which you have, webadict.
Okey dokey, artichoke me, daddy.
Your point is that Max and I coordinated a vote on Knightwing by using evidence on why he's scum, and this worked because everyone thinks he's scum? Listen, that's not really Max's or my fault, is it? I put out solid reasoning on what Knightwing could do to make himself look Town, and, uh, he didn't do it. That's what he does as scum. He lurks, actively and passively. It's a hard habit to break, so I don't fault him for it. And if he stops lurking, he'll be fine.
The other thing I want to point out is that defending a vote really hard was not what I meant. I meant that your vote can push against any meaningful discussion by saying "Look, web has performed a scumtell. Thus, he is scum." So, it involves no rational thought behind it. It invokes no means to discuss. It cares not about why the scumtell was performed (Even though it is 100% not a scumtell, but let's get to that shortly.)
Conventionally, if I performed a scumtell, does that make me scum? If I perform a Towntell, does that make me Town? The answer to these questions is obviously no. Statistically, though, they're good indicators. Statistics are supporting measures, but they're not proof. What that means is that pointing out someone doing a scumtell is fine as a baseline for your argument, a great reason to suspect someone, but it's not proof that they're scum. You can pretend flip-flopping is a scumtell all you want, but you haven't proven that the rationale behind the flip-flop is scummy.
But, flip-flopping is not a scumtell. I'm not going to find the stats, but you can trust that NQT did the analysis on it and showed there was a higher correlation between vote swapping and Townie players.
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