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Author Topic: Beginner BYOR Mafia 3 - Game Over - Et tu, Egan?  (Read 24939 times)

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Re: Beginner BYOR Mafia 3 (8 / 9) - Day 2 - Mysteries Afoot
« Reply #240 on: August 12, 2022, 03:33:36 pm »

That ensures that I wasn't blocked, as you wouldn't've gotten the message if I was.

So, I was either redirected to Lenglon (why?) or Roden was bussed with someone, possibly me (which... Does make sense, since FoU usually makes Actions self-targeting through resolution fail) or Egan_BW, I suppose. Anyone that got my message would've immediately known that. It's also possible someone can steal messages... We could test it by having Roden respond to FoU with a buy message.

@FoU: If an Action self-targets through redirection or bussing, does it fail if it could not normally self-target? What happens to multiple target Actions? Can someone steal messages?

But, again, none of this is really all that concerning.
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Re: Beginner BYOR Mafia 3 (8 / 9) - Day 2 - Mysteries Afoot
« Reply #241 on: August 12, 2022, 03:46:03 pm »

So uh, yeah, about that.

I was waiting to hear back from FoU as to whether it was supposed to be sent to me, or a mistake.

Me "just because", right?
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Re: Beginner BYOR Mafia 3 (8 / 9) - Day 2 - Mysteries Afoot
« Reply #242 on: August 12, 2022, 03:49:14 pm »

Ur not gonna comment about the roleblock? Mr: giftsender
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Re: Beginner BYOR Mafia 3 (8 / 9) - Day 2 - Mysteries Afoot
« Reply #243 on: August 12, 2022, 03:51:13 pm »

Ur not gonna comment about the roleblock? Mr: giftsender
I wasn't roleblocked, friendo. I admit the only person who can confirm that is Jim, but it would be pretty silly for us to be doing this as a scumteam.
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Re: Beginner BYOR Mafia 3 (8 / 9) - Day 2 - Mysteries Afoot
« Reply #244 on: August 12, 2022, 03:58:38 pm »

...

So... Roden got roleblocked?
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Re: Beginner BYOR Mafia 3 (8 / 9) - Day 2 - Mysteries Afoot
« Reply #245 on: August 12, 2022, 04:02:41 pm »

Actually, Maximum Spin can confirm they got my message:

I put a name down twice, whose was it?
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Re: Beginner BYOR Mafia 3 (8 / 9) - Day 2 - Mysteries Afoot
« Reply #246 on: August 12, 2022, 04:08:29 pm »

Actually, Maximum Spin can confirm they got my message:

I put a name down twice, whose was it?
Knightwing. Totally thought that was weird.

But, uh, Roden can't possibly have been bussed with me? Because Jim and Shakerag targeted him?? I definitely didn't get redirected to Shakerag. In fact, I just checked, Jim shared his track result with me before Shakerag claimed the redirection in the thread, so he didn't fake it.
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Re: Beginner BYOR Mafia 3 (8 / 9) - Day 2 - Mysteries Afoot
« Reply #247 on: August 12, 2022, 04:17:01 pm »

Actually, Maximum Spin can confirm they got my message:

I put a name down twice, whose was it?
Knightwing. Totally thought that was weird.

But, uh, Roden can't possibly have been bussed with me? Because Jim and Shakerag targeted him?? I definitely didn't get redirected to Shakerag. In fact, I just checked, Jim shared his track result with me before Shakerag claimed the redirection in the thread, so he didn't fake it.
Yeah, making mistakes on purpose to verify my message was... uh... on purpose!

You're right, though, that doesn't make full sense. It can't be a standard bus, but I definitely targeted Roden.

Regardless, you didn't get roleblocked and you did get my message, so something screwy happened. I'm willing to accept that you're not Mafia for now.
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Re: Beginner BYOR Mafia 3 (8 / 9) - Day 2 - Mysteries Afoot
« Reply #248 on: August 12, 2022, 04:35:26 pm »

@FoU: If an Action self-targets through redirection or bussing, does it fail if it could not normally self-target? What happens to multiple target Actions? Can someone steal messages?
By default, if an action is redirected or bussed to its own user, it still takes effect. Unless specified otherwise in the redirection ability, if a multiple target action is redirected, one of the intended targets will be changed, selected at random, though specific implementations of redirection could do things differently. A bus, by contrast, would change whichever target or targets landed on a bussed player while leaving the targets not aimed at a bussed player alone. I'd be open to a discussion about this after the game, but it's what I'm working with for now, for a lack of better ideas.

And yes, if a messaging action was redirected, the message would appropriately be sent to the action's new target.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2022, 04:40:09 pm by FallacyofUrist »
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Re: Beginner BYOR Mafia 3 (8 / 9) - Day 2 - Mysteries Afoot
« Reply #249 on: August 12, 2022, 04:38:28 pm »

Max, would you want one of your Abilities disabled and learned by me?
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Re: Beginner BYOR Mafia 3 (8 / 9) - Day 2 - Mysteries Afoot
« Reply #250 on: August 12, 2022, 04:44:14 pm »

What are the chances of me being mafia directly after

2/9

Also, Egan, Where are you?

Slacking. Also sleeping and working, but I've been on the computer for a bit. Need to gather my focus before I check the thread and clear my unreads.

Egan, were you roleblocked last night?

Action failed, targeting Roden. Because the hammer made me feel uncomfortable with them.
"Action failed" was the exact wording, I dunno if it's different for roleblocks.
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Re: Beginner BYOR Mafia 3 (8 / 9) - Day 2 - Mysteries Afoot
« Reply #251 on: August 12, 2022, 04:47:24 pm »

Max, would you want one of your Abilities disabled and learned by me?
Not really. I need my abilities to do my role thing. It would inconvenience Jim, anyway.
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Re: Beginner BYOR Mafia 3 (8 / 9) - Day 2 - Mysteries Afoot
« Reply #252 on: August 12, 2022, 05:02:31 pm »

If Jim didn't want to be inconvenienced, he shouldn't've been so gosh darn suspicious.
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Re: Beginner BYOR Mafia 3 (8 / 9) - Day 2 - Mysteries Afoot
« Reply #253 on: August 12, 2022, 05:26:22 pm »

Egan, were you roleblocked last night?
Action failed, targeting Roden. Because the hammer made me feel uncomfortable with them.
"Action failed" was the exact wording, I dunno if it's different for roleblocks.
It is different for roleblocks.
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Re: Beginner BYOR Mafia 3 (8 / 9) - Day 2 - Mysteries Afoot
« Reply #254 on: August 12, 2022, 05:28:29 pm »

@FoU: what happens if a roleblock is redirected to the user of the roleblock?
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