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[Egan_BW]

got any arguments to be left alive as an omega miller and double voter?

Not particularly, seeing as that's objectively what I am. I think the onus of proof lies on you. Is it a good idea to policy lynch me?

[Egan_BW]

Regardless, I may be less certain of reads than I could be, but it's better to vote than to not.

FallacyofUrist
ur scum copying my miller claim, cly

[FallacyofUrist]

Note that Egan's vote ties, 3 on me and 3 on Egan.

A tied vote results in mafia controlling the execution.

Granted, this is also a three-way tie, now. But Egan's vote is about as justified as NJW's vote on me is, and it's for the exact same reasons. 'mafiakill miller bad'.

No mention of my behavior. No mention of any reason for voting me other than my semi-miller claim. That's not good enough.

I'm 90% sure Egan is scum, now. and 70% sure the scum team is Egan/NJW.

[Egan_BW]

I'm tired, you look scummiest to me.

[FallacyofUrist]

I'm tired, you look scummiest to me.

Gimme three reasons not related to my miller claim that I'm scum, then?

Not asking for essays or paragraphs, just three actual reasons based on my behavior.

[FallacyofUrist]

...

So to conclude, Egan_BW and NJW2000 have maintained each other as minor scum but not an actual target (distancing behavior) and are both voting me for the exact same reason, my weak miller claim, without regard to my actual behavior.

Neither of them can give reasons why I'm scum other than 'I dunno bad miller claim' and when other players, like Lenglon, have actual behavior-based cases, that really isn't sufficient as a reason to vote.

[Egan_BW]

One, you act how I'd expect you to, and where I've seen you before was KWN, where you were scum.
Two, You may have buddied me a little in my spat with Shakerag, or at least gotten involved. By Max's logic, that means there's possible scum between you and Shake.
Three, you think I'm scum when I'm town.

[FallacyofUrist]

In order:

Reasonable-ish,
in no way definitive or useful,
and I guess we'll find out, won't we?

I really don't think a weak meta read without specific examples/comparisons and a conspiracy around my follower-miller claim is a stronger case than one actually based around a very simple question.

Has Fallacy been actively pushing cases and hunting scum?

Can you answer that one, too?

[Mamobo]

Vote Count
------------------------
Egan_BW - 3 - TricMagic*, Maximum Spin*, FallacyofUrist*,
FallacyofUrist - 3 - NJW2000*, Egan_BW*,
TricMagic - 2 - Shakerag*, Lidku*,
Lenglon - 1 - Knightwing64*,
Knightwing64 - 0 -
Lidku - 0 -
Maximum Spin - 0 -
NJW2000 - 0 -
Shakerag - 0 -
No One - 0 -

Not Voting - 1 - Lenglon*,

6 to Hammer. Day ends on July 13, 2022 at 20:00 CDT (2 hours and 14 minutes remaining.)

NOTE: In the event of a tie, the Mafia chooses the execution target.

[FallacyofUrist]

NOTE: In the event of a tie, the Mafia chooses the execution target.

Well, what'll it be?

If you're the reason the vote ties in 2 hours, Egan_BW, there's no way you survive Day 2's execution.

You know this.

[Knightwing64]

Lenglon, What do you think?

[Shakerag]

Ugh, I really don't like choosing between Egan and FoU, but I sure as hell don't want a tie.

Egan_BW.

[FallacyofUrist]

If you're so dedicated to getting me executed instead of you - and you know, that's fair.

Let's look at things from your perspective.

Fallacy, masterful always scum, has cornered you with their merry goons, TricMagic, and Maximum Spin.

Your scumbuddy ally NJW2000 has joined you to try and pin the treacherous Fallacy down.

The vote is tied, 3 on you, 3 on evil!Fallacy. Obviously, a tie is unacceptable - that way lies the mafia choosing the execution target anonymously. A completely unreasonable outcome. Likewise, your own execution is unacceptable. If you're town, and in this hypothetical scenario you are, then you're the only person you know for sure is town, barring role shenanigans.

Since you're already using your votemancy to double up your power, the only option left to you is argument.

I really don't think a weak meta read without specific examples/comparisons and a conspiracy around my follower-miller claim is a stronger case than one actually based around a very simple question.

Has Fallacy been actively pushing cases and hunting scum?

Can you answer that one, too?

If you're town, and you're so convinced I'm mafia, why use such a weak case? It's not going to be sufficient to get anyone to switch from voting you to voting the dastardly Fallacy.

[FallacyofUrist]

Lenglon, What do you think?

I'd suggest using your own reasoning to make a decision instead of relying on everyone else's. You're here to learn, aye? Use the reasoning of others to support your own reasoning, but not to replace it.

You can join Shakerag and push Egan down, or join with Egan and vote me (and tie the vote again, which is bad). Or you can even come up with a third, separate case and see if you can convince people to go along with it.

Your role isn't your only set of powers - your words are power, too. It's up to you to use them well.

[Egan_BW]

I think you got defensive when I put my double votes on you. Eh, whether it's right or not, I'm voting who I think is scum. Gotta get someone out. If that's me it's a shame, but not a loss outright.

Leng's got an alright read on my personality, I don't have the emotional stamina for this kind of bullshit. I've used a lot of words this day and tried to be helpful. If I help everyone, then most of the people I help are Town.

As for your question of if you've been pushing cases, I've been reading everything and I couldn't give you a definitive answer. I don't think you've been pushing people much more than I have until recently, but these sorts of things don't stick in my mind very long. Too much data.