By the way, since ThtblovesDF shared some of our private messages, I took that for a tacit agreement on me doing the same. Enjoy yourselves:
1. ThtblovesDF:
Greetings neigbour,
as the growing frost might indicate, you are getting close to me with your current push east.
I suggest we draw a border with the north access/points going to you (180, 177) (# ingame to find province number)
I would claim 151, 150, 168.
Let me know what you think about it and if you want to draw up any time of nap/deal so we can focus on the less giant people.
2. Azthor:
I find the proposed deal disagreeablee, given you are effectively laying claim to part of my start island, but I am willing to accept it provided I either get #97 or you give up on your claims to #168, #150 and #161.
One or the other.
To explain my perspective here: I already met one of my other neighbours and preemptively deduced the location of another, making agreements with both, such that my only venues of expansion are into what you just tried to claim, #97 and a Throne that likely has another player behind.
3. ThtblovesDF:
Intresting that you base claims on graphics, doesn't that affect your gameplay strongly from map to map?
Your counter offer lacks any counter offer so far, how do you ant to split 168, 150 1nd 161 then?
Also, you can push north perfectly fine, infact i specifically left those provinces fully to your expansion.
4. Azthor:
Trying to be condescending will not avail you much diplomatically, you merely sound arrogant.
I cannot push north perfectly fine without breaking a treaty, as you could have deduced if you'd thought on what I said, instead of speaking on gut feeling or bad faith.
You have not specifically left those provinces for me, and you are lying when you say that, both from a strategic and practical perspective.
And I don't think most players will be very fond of you after they find out you immediately lied about this being your first Dom5 MP game, to start with.
As for the graphics, it is true the map itself does not matter for strategic considerations, for all we humans are attached to it. But in this case, even looking at it dryly, the considerations do not change: you are depriving me of a strategic fort with resources by laying claim to most of the surroundings.
You are the one making a one-sided offer. My counter offer is that I am letting you have your claim in exchange for one of my own; or offering to give up on mine in exchange for your own.
If you think your position allows you to do as you please and make a one sided claim, and you want to try and 1v1 Fomoria as Niefelheim, you can try.
I am not an experienced Fomoria player, and I have no issue telling you that. But I know all my tools, and your bless'd better be extremely specific if you want to pull that one off and leave the war in a good shape.
Because even if your position is as good as you implicitly claim, with the dompush you went for the war will likely devolve into a gank, whether you are winning or losing - double so when I nicely quote:
1. ThtblovesDF: "I'm in, EA Marverni I guess. Might change so if someone has a preference, let me know. Will be my first dom5 Multiplayer game.";
2. ThtblovesDF: "Win a game/battle (with lies), lose the bay12 meta war.";
3. Bay12 Dom5 Game 01: "ThtblovesDF - Marignon";
4. Bay12 Dom5 Game 02: "ThtblovesDF - Atlantis";
5. Bay12 Dom5 Game 03: "ThtblovesDF - Burobtum, Age of the Arch Horror Diabolists".
So, do you want to continue trying to turn this into a who can be worse person contest, actually negotiate, or go straight to war and ruining your diplomacy for this game?
5. ThtblovesDF:
Oh wow thanks for reminding me, I guess - I know you are seeing it as a huge gotcha, but I honestly forgot, its been 4 years. I will enjoy the nostlgia
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I will take 168, nothing more.
I assume you agree to this, since it adds: 0 (zero) additional connections to your territory from "mine", 0 "potential" passages blocked for you or anything else.
You good with that?
6. Azthor:
You said you will take #168 and nothing more, but #168 needs #151, and you already went and occupied it, as well.
Can you spell out exactly which provinces of #97, #168, #151 and #150 you would have stay with each of us, respectively so that there is no misunderstanding?
Note that a mine is the last turn pending, I am in a bit of a pressure to finish it, so I'd thank you if you could make haste.
Would have replied earlier, but the sunday has been busy, so my apologies for the delay on my end, in that regard.
7. ThatblovesDF:
Yes, the province I already occupie, is already occupied.
Yes the province I said I will occupie (161) will be occupied.
97 is going to you, thanks for informing me how fat your empire already is.
Niefelheim:
161, 151
Formaria:
150, 165, 177, 160, 131,
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