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Author Topic: [TOWN WIN] A Horrible Game of Cults, or "Kill Fallacy Yesterday" (9)  (Read 17413 times)

Egan_BW

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Re: [Day 2] A Horrible Game of Cults, or "Kill Fallacy Yesterday" (9)
« Reply #150 on: July 01, 2022, 12:10:33 pm »

... That's not how Town Factchecker works. I now send false results to cult, meaning that we won't be able to use my power to confirm anything without cult help.
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Re: A Horrible Game of Cults, or "Kill Fallacy Yesterday" (9+)
« Reply #151 on: July 01, 2022, 12:12:37 pm »

(Every day, you can choose one target, including yourself. If you are cult, your target's alignment will be wrongly announced in the main thread; your target will be said to be town if he is actually cult and vice versa. If you are town, your target's alignment will be wrongly announced to all cult members.)
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Re: [Day 2] A Horrible Game of Cults, or "Kill Fallacy Yesterday" (9)
« Reply #152 on: July 01, 2022, 12:19:22 pm »

Also yes I am town now, which in inconvenient because there's no way for me to confirm that to town and if both town and cult vote me today I'll wind up cult again, wasting the town vote. Why Toony, either you're clever cookie SM or you should have read Knight's roleclaim more carefully.

If timing helps, I got my conversion PM just a bit before this post:

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Re: [Day 2] A Horrible Game of Cults, or "Kill Fallacy Yesterday" (9)
« Reply #153 on: July 01, 2022, 12:23:05 pm »

Who did the Cultists vote to convert?
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Re: [Day 2] A Horrible Game of Cults, or "Kill Fallacy Yesterday" (9)
« Reply #154 on: July 01, 2022, 12:26:18 pm »

Ok, looks like my theory was very wrong, so never mind my last few posts.

I’m not really sure what’s going on. I’ll have to go over yesterday’s events more carefully, but people are still leaving a lot unsaid, which might not be pro-town*. I’m still very suspicious of Lidku.

I’m also wondering about a frightening possibility. What if the SM can pass on their alignment? I doubt they’d have a cult convert, but maybe a one-shot alignment swap…

What suspicions do you have of me?
Win condition stuff at the start of the game was odd. But perhaps a misunderstanding.
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Re: [Day 2] A Horrible Game of Cults, or "Kill Fallacy Yesterday" (9)
« Reply #155 on: July 01, 2022, 12:29:04 pm »

This may prove a useful bit of terminology: let's call players aiming for town victory open source, and those aiming for cult victory closed source. I'm not sure if we have any closed players, but it's a useful distinction from town and cult. Web was cult, but open.

Who did the Cultists vote to convert?
I voted for Web, since by GM confirmation web getting voted by both results in him becoming town if he's cult, which he definitely was.
However, I received no confirmation as to what the result of the cult vote was.
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Re: [Day 2] A Horrible Game of Cults, or "Kill Fallacy Yesterday" (9)
« Reply #156 on: July 01, 2022, 12:32:00 pm »

In theory, the cultist vote shouldn't have happened.
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Re: [Day 2] A Horrible Game of Cults, or "Kill Fallacy Yesterday" (9)
« Reply #157 on: July 01, 2022, 12:32:28 pm »

Or rather, done nothing, if I understood the rules correctly.
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Re: [Day 2] A Horrible Game of Cults, or "Kill Fallacy Yesterday" (9)
« Reply #158 on: July 01, 2022, 12:33:40 pm »

@Knightwing:
It's one of the Factcheckers I think.

Egan should be able to confirm their alignmemt by checking Webadict. The result should be that Web is town. They could also check me, but that seems redundant and too conservative. By checking Web we will confirm both are town most likely. Since Egan will now be giving truthful results.

I made myself unconvertable yesterday so I should guaranteed be town still today as well.
I'm already confirmed, unless you think the SM can hear the alignment whispers.

Or rather, done nothing, if I understood the rules correctly.
I know for a fact it didn't.
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Re: [Day 2] A Horrible Game of Cults, or "Kill Fallacy Yesterday" (9)
« Reply #159 on: July 01, 2022, 12:36:57 pm »

I'm pretty sure Blu is Cult, so inspect her
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Re: [Day 2] A Horrible Game of Cults, or "Kill Fallacy Yesterday" (9)
« Reply #160 on: July 01, 2022, 12:41:10 pm »

Who did the Cultists vote to convert?

There is no way to know, as even the Cultists ("closed-source") votes are anonymous between each other.
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Re: [Day 2] A Horrible Game of Cults, or "Kill Fallacy Yesterday" (9)
« Reply #161 on: July 01, 2022, 12:45:50 pm »

Well whatever, either way Egan is town and you'll have to take the word of the two of us.

Bluarian for now.
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Re: [Day 2] A Horrible Game of Cults, or "Kill Fallacy Yesterday" (9)
« Reply #162 on: July 01, 2022, 12:48:18 pm »

I guess we just go for Blue and see if we win? There's not much to go on yet, as far as I can tell.
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Re: [Day 2] A Horrible Game of Cults, or "Kill Fallacy Yesterday" (9)
« Reply #163 on: July 01, 2022, 01:03:44 pm »

Man I'm going to have to change my avatar back. I lose myself way too easily without the old one.

Who did the Cultists vote to convert?

There is no way to know, as even the Cultists ("closed-source") votes are anonymous between each other.

Except if Cultists like yourself claim how they voted thumbsupemoji.

Bluarian for now.

This is fine.

BluarianKnight.

Is your power to make people immune to conversions use limited?
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Re: [Day 2] A Horrible Game of Cults, or "Kill Fallacy Yesterday" (9)
« Reply #164 on: July 01, 2022, 01:13:15 pm »

I'm pretty sure Blu is Cult, so inspect her
Do you suspect Lidku of being Cult based on D1 inspections? If there's two of each inspection role they'd have to be, but it's possible there are three factcheckers.
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