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[webadict]

If I don't see an improvement I still think Web should replace, even if it's a b. mafia. If he's town, he's going to force a lynch. If he's mafia, whoever he's playing with is probably pissed. If he's a jester.. I still think it's bad play to be an asshole and not put effort in the game.

First, there are only Town and Mafia in Beginner Mafia, just for clarity. This was explained in the opebing post, so this isn't new information.

Second, while Oliverz wasn't super active (considering the first few days), I now consider Oliverz's activity acceptable. There will be no replacing Oliverz based on activity. They have done a reads list, commented on the state of the game, and communicated with other players. From a moderator standpoint, this is NOT replaceable behavior from my viewpoint (I gladly welcome the increase in activity!), although I will continue watching Oliverz in case activity drops.

Now, please continue as you were.

[Oliverz144]

I can NOT understand the current situation.
I read up the full thread, posted my reads, showed further interest in the game, and requested some nice game related talk.
I was nice and polite, and although my english is bad and i make a lot of typos, i still think it is understandable.
Yes, you may complain about me arriving late, to the thread, but hey - im now here!
However, i was not greeted with open arms, as a beginner mafia game should be like. 4 posts regarded me recently, and they weren't nice nor friendly at all.
Im shocked.

[Oliverz144]

Vote Count
------------------------
TricMagic - 3 - Roden*, Jim Groovester*, BluarianKnight*,
BluarianKnight - 1 - Lidku*,
Oliverz144 - 1 - EuchreJack*,
Roden - 1 - TricMagic*,
EuchreJack - 0 -
Jim Groovester - 0 -
Knightwing64 - 0 -
Lidku - 0 -
Maximum Spin - 0 -
No One - 0 -

Not Voting - 3 - Knightwing64, Maximum Spin, Oliverz144,

5 to Hammer. Day ends on June 21, 2022 at 20:00 CDT (22 hours and 4 minutes remaining.)

With the vote of jim being on roden and max on me
The wagons are 2v2v2
Rodan v tricmagic v oli (me)
The 2 counter wagons to me...they are my top scumreads.
With eod being in 12.5 hours, im not feeling comfortable.
Later i will self preserve on one of the two, but i would REALLY like to see some  more from those two.

[Knightwing64]

I can NOT understand the current situation.
I read up the full thread, posted my reads, showed further interest in the game, and requested some nice game related talk.
I was nice and polite, and although my english is bad and i make a lot of typos, i still think it is understandable.
Yes, you may complain about me arriving late, to the thread, but hey - im now here!
However, i was not greeted with open arms, as a beginner mafia game should be like. 4 posts regarded me recently, and they weren't nice nor friendly at all.
Im shocked.

In our defense you barely posted and one of the first things you did was quote a quote pyramid for no reason. You acted more like a troll then a player who was actually trying at the game, all the typos didn’t help. You have to look at this from our POV. Either you weren’t trying very hard, or your a asshole troll just trying to piss people off.

Great wall dude
Lol

Can you not see how this could be taken in a different manner? While you probably meant it as friendly snarking, it was presented in a very douchy way and colored almost everyone’s first interaction with you in a negative light.

Most of your typos look like they could have been corrected if you spent 20 seconds looking over your post, which made it seem like you weren’t even trying.

[Mamobo]

Vote Count
------------------------
Oliverz144 - 2 - EuchreJack*, Maximum Spin*,
Roden - 2 - TricMagic*, Jim Groovester*,
TricMagic - 2 - Roden*, BluarianKnight*,
BluarianKnight - 1 - Lidku*,
EuchreJack - 0 -
Jim Groovester - 0 -
Knightwing64 - 0 -
Lidku - 0 -
Maximum Spin - 0 -
No One - 0 -

Not Voting - 2 - Knightwing64, Oliverz144,

5 to Hammer. Day ends on June 21, 2022 at 20:00 CDT (10 hours and 28 minutes remaining.)

[webadict]

Reminder: In the event of a tie, the Mafia chooses the execution target from among the tied! It is recommended that you converge on a single target.

[Lidku]

I'll change my vote to Roden.

(sorry for the edit, I used the "red glow" instead of regular red)

[Jim Groovester]

Great wall dude
Lol

Thanks, asshole.

Yoo why so rude?
Someone earlier said that being aggressive is your town meta. I once had it that way too, but i got some grip and now im  no longer.
Please, dont put ate (appeal to emotions) into the game. Thank you!

If I was wrong to read 'great wall dude lol' as something else other than mockery, please tell me what message was intended to be communicated instead. :|

[Jim Groovester]

If I was wrong to read 'great wall dude lol' as something else other than mockery, please tell me what message was intended to be communicated instead. :|

duuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrr i should wake up before posting

If I was wrong to read 'great wall dude lol' as mockery then tell me what message was intended to be communicated instead.

[Jim Groovester]

Oliverz144

Basis? He sounds like scum Knightwing.

Really? You really think so?

You read me... based in meta from another player? For real?? Are you joking?!?!
Anyway, reads I got while reading up:
scum: roden, tricmagic,
scummy:  grooveester, euchre, maximum
not poe: lidku, blue, one guy that I forgot his name

Interesting reads in that you see more wolves than not.

Do you suspect TricMagic and Roden are on a team? You call both of them scum but they're voting each other. How does that work?

I'll change my vote to Roden.

(sorry for the edit, I used the "red glow" instead of regular red)

But why?

[TricMagic]

I'll change my vote to Roden.

(sorry for the edit, I used the "red glow" instead of regular red)

Please stop the edits. Double-posting is OK in these games.

[Maximum Spin]

Oliverz144

Basis? He sounds like scum Knightwing.

Really? You really think so?

Yeah. Maybe I am violating Hanlon's razor but it looks like radar chaff to me.

[Jim Groovester]

Oliverz144

Basis? He sounds like scum Knightwing.

Really? You really think so?

Yeah. Maybe I am violating Hanlon's razor but it looks like radar chaff to me.

Alright.

I don't see it myself but I'd expect a scum player to be a lot more cautious about attacking the new players.

[TricMagic]

Oliverz144

Basis? He sounds like scum Knightwing.

Really? You really think so?

Yeah. Maybe I am violating Hanlon's razor but it looks like radar chaff to me.

Alright.

I don't see it myself but I'd expect a scum player to be a lot more cautious about attacking the new players.

I'm tempted to vote him out myself. Their posts haven't exactly been helpful.

[Lidku]

Oliverz144

Basis? He sounds like scum Knightwing.

Really? You really think so?

You read me... based in meta from another player? For real?? Are you joking?!?!
Anyway, reads I got while reading up:
scum: roden, tricmagic,
scummy:  grooveester, euchre, maximum
not poe: lidku, blue, one guy that I forgot his name

Interesting reads in that you see more wolves than not.

Do you suspect TricMagic and Roden are on a team? You call both of them scum but they're voting each other. How does that work?

I'll change my vote to Roden.

(sorry for the edit, I used the "red glow" instead of regular red)

But why?

From what I've been reading from other people in this thread, people are "reading" TricMagic as town. Oliver is being pegged as "Jester," so with that role in mind, he wouldn't be mafia.

I have nothing real concrete to go off voting for Roden, but he's out of the three that I don't really have any justifications for him not being a Mafioso. You said yourself that you have to vote, even if you're aren't 100% someone is Mafia, because you don't vote, the Mafia has a better chance at winning the game.

I don't know if its necessarily the right choice, but breaking the tie on Roden is what I'll have to go with. It's better than wasting a vote on BluarianKnight, who no one was voting against.