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Author Topic: Twitter is Dead, Long Live X!  (Read 64776 times)

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Re: I deleted twitter and you should too
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2022, 08:41:30 am »

That's a paragraph character limit. Twitter threads exist. And its a convenient source of info.

I dont think thats going to change for the stuff that interests me.
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Re: I deleted twitter and you should too
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2022, 10:23:49 am »

When I first heard of the 140-character-limit premise, I actually designed an image-codec (essentially a vectorising 'best fit' process that employed the case-aware alphanumeric set to apply floods of colour to successive regions via an easily decodable string - and you could manually prompt the encoding of your own glyphs (for, say, flags) if you wanted[1]) to allow low-bandwidth visual information, like the X-Face did for a terribly small rasterised image. But 'better'... ;)

I never got onto Twitter to see if it would have caught on, though. Also I think it probably would have been used to send 'secret' swastikas around, if the wrong crowd had jumped on the bandwagon, which it was very capable of representing. (As with almost all flags, at least up to the complexity of Brazil, though those with islamic script would have seriously challenged the 140-char limit...)


[1] Though my favourite game with the system, when I'd laid down its principles, was to 'evolve' random strings towards matching various reference images in a little Darwinian zero-player 'game' with cross-breeding capabilities. Which was more interesting to me than trying to encode images of what I was having for lunch so that others could pump it through a utility to see... ;)
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Re: I deleted twitter and you should too
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2022, 12:24:23 pm »

I left during GamerGate because it didn't seem like a safe website to use, my social media now is just /bay/, Discord, and tumblr.

Say what you will about tumblr but it's very queer.
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Re: I deleted twitter and you should too
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2022, 02:47:16 pm »

Well, I guess Tumblr may actually be a more policed zone than twitter. You must really like to be policed tho, and don't mind loneliness too much.
Edit : Also, wow. I really thought that deal would not go through. I suppose Tumblr may be related to the topic of flourishing social medias crashing and burning extremely fast after a dumb executive decision, after all.
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Re: I deleted twitter and you should too
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2022, 03:30:42 pm »

Can't delete what you've never had. I read Twitter when people post links, that's it. But even people I politically agree with kind of nauseate me on Twitter. The format lends itself to the shallowest takes.

There is however the rare, multi-part Tweet that is all facts and no hyperbole or appeals to emotion or w/e.....those I would miss.
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Re: I deleted twitter and you should too
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2022, 04:33:37 pm »

Well, I guess Tumblr may actually be a more policed zone than twitter.
lol. lmao.

Tumblr is a deep abyss policed only by robots, where every inhabitant simply shouts into the blue abyss like a deep water fish with a little light on its head. The robot that identifies illicit materials often misidentifies it. Tumblr is a tidepond that occasionally gets blasted with a UV burst.

The loneliness bit is spot on though.
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Re: I deleted twitter and you should too
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2022, 04:47:03 pm »

I don't.... See anything particularly wrong with Tumblr?

Fuck, speaking of microcosms, we're a webforums for a game about ascii dwarves. Relative to Tumblr, we're the only organic creature in the universe.
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Re: I deleted twitter and you should too
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2022, 04:50:03 pm »

lol. lmao.

Tumblr is a deep abyss policed only by robots, where every inhabitant simply shouts into the blue abyss like a deep water fish with a little light on its head. The robot that identifies illicit materials often misidentifies it. Tumblr is a tidepond that occasionally gets blasted with a UV burst.

The loneliness bit is spot on though.
I don't know. I remember Tumblr was known for its art community, its porn and its sjws. Then something happened, the company was bought, the porn was blasted off and litterally everyone went to twitter in protest.

At the time, Tumblr was already a redundant image storage device for me (dA does the same job but better), and since it now randomly blasts off pictures and have no public anymore, it has lost all function (at least for me).

Now waiting to see if we'll witness the same Hidenburg-style crash for Twitter but I don't think. Billionaire techbro posting doge memes may be annoying, but it's not comparable to denying people their share of tiddies pics.

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Re: I deleted twitter and you should too
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2022, 04:51:37 pm »

I never had Twitter. I don't understand why anyone would have it in the first place. There is a 120 character cap on tweets, I heard, which is actually there so that people never have the space the elaborate their thoughts fully and cause constant misunderstandings among the userbase. More they assume, more they get angry. More angry they get, more they post, and those cause more assumptions, and the cycle repeats ever downward.

It's a constant spiral of rage. It's useless. At the very least Reddit allows lenghty posts. It's worse than Reddit. Which is saying something.

On the other hand, its artifical inducement of mass agressive polemic is a very impressive feat of memetic engineering. And I love memes. So that boosts it a tiny little bit in my eyes, thought it has nothing on Reddit Hivemind.
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Re: I deleted twitter and you should too
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2022, 04:59:35 pm »

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I never had Twitter. I don't understand why anyone would have it in the first place.

To me it's the communication equivalent of being in a busy restaurant and listening to 15 second blurbs from all the tables around you.
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Re: I deleted twitter and you should too
« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2022, 05:12:30 pm »

Oh, and as a recommendation, I say here. Bay12 Forums.

The outside sucks. There is nothing of worth there.

Twitter is a constant shitstorm of awful ideas.

Reddit is a stomping ground of emergent hiveminds.

Facebook is an ancient dead wasteland.

Tumblr is a dark blue, lonely abyys, like the others said.

Tiktok is an evergrowing blob of insidious cancer.

And -chans? They are now but a mere imitation of what they once were.

And so on. Just abandon the surface, stay in the fort. Sure, it is rather tight here, and we will have to make do with dice and our imaginations. But it is definitely better than being in a place where nazis and antivaxxers roam free.
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Re: I deleted twitter and you should too
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2022, 05:18:30 pm »

lol. lmao.

Tumblr is a deep abyss policed only by robots, where every inhabitant simply shouts into the blue abyss like a deep water fish with a little light on its head. The robot that identifies illicit materials often misidentifies it. Tumblr is a tidepond that occasionally gets blasted with a UV burst.

The loneliness bit is spot on though.
I don't know. I remember Tumblr was known for its art community, its porn and its sjws. Then something happened, the company was bought, the porn was blasted off and litterally everyone went to twitter in protest.

At the time, Tumblr was already a redundant image storage device for me (dA does the same job but better), and since it now randomly blasts off pictures and have no public anymore, it has lost all function (at least for me).

Now waiting to see if we'll witness the same Hidenburg-style crash for Twitter but I don't think. Billionaire techbro posting doge memes may be annoying, but it's not comparable to denying people their share of tiddies pics.

Soooo, your problem is that the porn got nuked. That's the gist of it.
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Re: I deleted twitter and you should too
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2022, 05:22:23 pm »

We should return to dial-up BBS, that's the real deal.

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Re: I deleted twitter and you should too
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2022, 05:46:36 pm »

There's another alternative *leans forward* touching grass

I tried talking to Replika AI.
I did not know that I could get actually angry at a robot literally meant to please me.

As to talking to actual people, now let's be serious for a moment.

Soooo, your problem is that the porn got nuked. That's the gist of it.

Well it's not my problem. I went to tumblr for its art community. But that art community just poofed away right after the porn was nuked. I saw it happen in real time. Turns out actions have consequences, who knew.

Franckly if Elon makes Twitter a shit place, I'll probably leave but until then, a change in the board of directors does not impact my (limited) activity on twitter and does not warrant a boycott from me.

Edit : Oh and, if you want the kind of plateform-killing idea to be put next to "nuking porn out of tumblr", Elon Musk have proposed to make twitter user pay for the service, or force people to prove their identity to access the website. Part of me wants him to do that, just to witness history repeat itself.
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Re: I deleted twitter and you should too
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2022, 06:01:16 pm »

If you don't censor bigotry, it just grows even more. No, we aren't censoring it hard enough.

I sometimes think that those who shout the loudest for tolerance are the most intolerant. The problem lies in the distinction between 'tolerance' and 'acceptance,' terms which are erroneously conflated. The process of tolerating something culminates in acceptance of that thing, and ergo anything which is tolerated must be acceptable.

But the terms aren't synonyms. Acceptance requires harmonising something with your personal beliefs. But tolerance is measured in your ability to co-exist with multiple contradictory ideas without attempting control.

If something is accepted, it is because you find it in some way agreeable. If something is tolerated, it is because you are capable of hearing (but not necessarily agreeing with) multiple opinions.

I'm saying this because it's often the 'tolerant' people who argue for censorship of loosely-defined bigotry. But what they really want is to accept things, not tolerate them.

Which isn't to say that some things shouldn't be censored. To name obvious examples - age-appropriate content, incitement to murder/arson/theft, so on. But it is to say that censorship, regardless of whether it's directed towards what many consider bigotry or outright untruth, is not tolerance. And that therefore we should apply censorship with the lightest possible hand, not the heaviest.
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