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Author Topic: How to counter older people?  (Read 1583 times)

Scoops Novel

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How to counter older people?
« on: April 16, 2022, 03:00:23 am »

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What does this mean?

It means that soon, we won't be able to rely on out-adapting those older then us, because we'll all be equally out of our element. I also think that when you add in life extension and rejuvenation, people won't age out anymore.

I know what you're thinking; surely this kind of thinking is irrelevant with this degree of technological progress. The thing is, I think humanities progress potential is a whole lot lower then our technologies. I expect people to human up the whole thing until we're dealing with basically super-charged versions of today's problems. Or perhaps call it simple paranoia, I expect us to somehow end up with this irritating pain in the rear.

The problem is this; older people today are not the older people of yesterday. The fuckers know too much. It's too easy to be loaded up with information these days, so many experiences. Remove young peoples tech advantage and youth advantage and we've got vampire problems.

Speaking as someone who has his misgivings about most people; that goes double for older people. I refuse to let the fuckers who would never be willing to consider shit like this steamroll my future like they choke the young's present. FUCK YOU!

Even if you don't think life extension is on the cards? The fact remains we're not playing the same ball game with older generations that we used to play, one way or another. And it's not all in the young's favour. The power discrepancy could increase while the knowledge gap fades, and then where the fuck do we stand?

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Re: How to counter older people?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2022, 03:25:11 am »

This line of argument presumes that decline in mental ability will persist, despite age extension technology.

The same medical advances that are being leveraged against such things as alzheimers, would apply here.


More, if that trend TRULY holds, society will need to learn to accept that such rapid advancement is no longer viable as a business tactic, as the human population would be obsolete by the time it leaves highschool.  Industry would have to be tapping kids for talent before they are legally eligible to work, in order to meet those demand curves.


This is the danger with such kinds of extrapolation.

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Re: How to counter older people?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2022, 05:08:47 am »

How old do you have to be to be counted as an old person? Asking for a friend.

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Re: How to counter older people?
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2022, 05:26:42 am »

Looking down on older people is the telltale sign of getting old. You just fear the future you
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Re: How to counter older people?
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2022, 05:38:42 am »

You can encounter them same as any other kind of people. At work, in bars, on Tinder. Maybe playing bingo, if you're into the really crusty type. I'm sure some of them will want to FUCK YOU! too.
I don't understand what the graph and the rest of the post have to do with it.
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Re: How to counter older people?
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2022, 06:09:04 am »

I think people are misinterpreting the OP's petard:

It is not "Oh noez, old people!"

It is, "At the rate of technological revolution, and the increased technological training needed to adequately and meaningfully engage in the modern world, older people are going to become a growing population that gets more and more on the wrong side of the digital divide."

Which, again, I point cheekily at the 'extrapolation' cartoon.  That kind of thinking relies extensively on accepting those extrapolated curves as "TOTALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN OMG WTF BBQ!"

Again, if that kind of curve were to indeed come to be the status quo, industry would be unable to train people-- the costs of training would never have an actuarial timeframe where they benefit the company.  Workers would be obsolete, in terms of their skillset and knowledgebase, before they even leave highschool.

Since that is a functional singularity in terms of how young you can demand your workforce be, natural chilling effects will rear their head against such curves, and they will **NOT** follow that kind of LOG scale. 

Additionally, the notion of the premise-- that people must be fully educated in the technology to meaningfully interact with it-- has been patently untrue since at least the 90s.  I would know, I have been a tech-head that entire time, and most people I meet do not come anywhere near the "information technology expert" bar, but still meaningfully use technology daily.


So, again--- Beware extrapolation like this-- and, further-- Conclusion does not follow from premise.

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Re: How to counter older people?
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2022, 04:07:49 pm »

Not my point. I'm honestly just talking life extension vampires, pumped up with life experience and NOT limited by tech that now NOBODY understands.
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Re: How to counter older people?
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2022, 04:21:08 pm »

You cannot counter old people. But you can eventually join them

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Re: How to counter older people?
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2022, 07:56:53 pm »

You just make preconceptions a detriment.
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Re: How to counter older people?
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2022, 10:02:32 pm »

I just call over a nurse/CNA and say they're asking to use the restroom, then make my escape while they're distracted.
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Re: How to counter older people?
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2022, 12:38:14 pm »

Is there anything to counter about the elderly, they don't do much honestly.

But if you insist, just use AoE. Their old brittle bones crumble into fine dust in one touch, so any amount of shock damage will insta-kill them. They don't drop much though, and as soon as you kill one, stronger enemies with OP projectile attacks appear. They are called the Poll-Ice. I dunno if the names a pun.
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Re: How to counter older people?
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2022, 07:31:52 pm »

Remember the first rule of politics: Old people vote

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Re: How to counter older people?
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2022, 08:14:29 pm »

Remember the first rule of politics: Old people vote

Not only that: a significant portion of world leaders are old people.

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Re: How to counter older people?
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2022, 05:30:20 am »

To counter older people, try play hypermodern openings which they may be unfamiliar with, or suggest playing American games from the 2000s where the element of random chance will nullify their greater experience

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Re: How to counter older people?
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2022, 09:52:40 am »


Not only that: a significant portion of world leaders are old people.

For now...
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