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Author Topic: Emotional Responses to War in Ukraine - Personal Diary & Mutual Support  (Read 137694 times)

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« Reply #165 on: April 22, 2022, 07:36:16 pm »

Some locks can only be locked from the inside, Barrel bolts and chain locks come in mind. They're kinda niche though, and I don't trust a corrupt police force to be honest about this sort of stuff.

The locked room murder was the second murder, which was in Spain.
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« Reply #166 on: April 22, 2022, 07:49:01 pm »

Some locks can only be locked from the inside, Barrel bolts and chain locks come in mind. They're kinda niche though, and I don't trust a corrupt police force to be honest about this sort of stuff.

The locked room murder was the second murder, which was in Spain.

You mixed them up.
The locked room murder was in Moscow.
The brutal stabbing was in Spain.

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« Reply #167 on: April 22, 2022, 09:19:30 pm »

Here everyone, the last "Great Russian Poet" Brodsky. The successor of Pushkin. The best of the best. Won a Nobel Prize in Literature. Listen to the trash this swamp creature had to say in 1998. Here's Russian culture for you.



Wow! I almost couldn't tell that his parents were hauling him away mid-masturbation session from 4chan this time! Telling us to get gangbanged by Krauts and Pollacks. What deep, powerful poetry. Not a sign of advanced mental illness. What a visionary! What refinement! This is the best Russia has to offer, apparently. And this was published in Russian news. Of course.

Don't tell me it's just Putin ever again.
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« Reply #168 on: April 22, 2022, 09:20:26 pm »


Also, Moldova is concerned about Russian plans to take Donbas and southern Ukraine, which would open a gateway to the breakaway region of Transnistria.

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Moldova has expressed “deep concern” and summoned the Russian ambassador following comments by a Russian military commander who said Moscow’s new aim was to seize control of southern Ukraine, which would also give it access to Transnistria, a pro-Russian breakaway region of Moldova.

“These statements are unfounded and contradict the position of the Russian Federation supporting the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Republic of Moldova, within its internationally recognized borders,” Moldova’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

In a meeting with Russian ambassador Oleg Vasnetov, the ministry “reiterated that the Republic of Moldova, in line with its Constitution, is a neutral state and this principle must be respected by all international actors, including the Russian Federation,” it continued.

Sorry Moldova, there are no Neutrals.

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« Reply #169 on: April 22, 2022, 10:48:02 pm »

It disturbed me greatly that so many of these parents seem willing to brutally kill their children. My first reaction was to just assume they were Epstein cases, but one of them was a literal locked-room mystery. Either Putin is working very hard to hide his involvement in these murders or Russians really are this fucked.
That's just the uber-rich of any nationality. The uber-rich lack any sort of morality or compassion. I hope if there is a future socialist government in Russia, they all get deported while their money and businesses stay behind. Fuck them.

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I will be entirely honest, I have never heard of this guy or his poems before. He seems cringe though. Keep on cherrypicking things to discredit Russian culture.
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« Reply #170 on: April 22, 2022, 10:50:52 pm »


Also, Moldova is concerned about Russian plans to take Donbas and southern Ukraine, which would open a gateway to the breakaway region of Transnistria.

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Moldova has expressed “deep concern” and summoned the Russian ambassador following comments by a Russian military commander who said Moscow’s new aim was to seize control of southern Ukraine, which would also give it access to Transnistria, a pro-Russian breakaway region of Moldova.

“These statements are unfounded and contradict the position of the Russian Federation supporting the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Republic of Moldova, within its internationally recognized borders,” Moldova’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

In a meeting with Russian ambassador Oleg Vasnetov, the ministry “reiterated that the Republic of Moldova, in line with its Constitution, is a neutral state and this principle must be respected by all international actors, including the Russian Federation,” it continued.

Sorry Moldova, there are no Neutrals.
Russian government and military need to be eradicated like the cockroaches they are.
They are a threat to humanity. They have forgone their right to be alive.
Fucking nazis. Die nazi scum.
No one will weep for you.
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« Reply #171 on: April 22, 2022, 10:52:40 pm »


Also, Moldova is concerned about Russian plans to take Donbas and southern Ukraine, which would open a gateway to the breakaway region of Transnistria.

Quote from: The Guardian
Moldova has expressed “deep concern” and summoned the Russian ambassador following comments by a Russian military commander who said Moscow’s new aim was to seize control of southern Ukraine, which would also give it access to Transnistria, a pro-Russian breakaway region of Moldova.

“These statements are unfounded and contradict the position of the Russian Federation supporting the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Republic of Moldova, within its internationally recognized borders,” Moldova’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

In a meeting with Russian ambassador Oleg Vasnetov, the ministry “reiterated that the Republic of Moldova, in line with its Constitution, is a neutral state and this principle must be respected by all international actors, including the Russian Federation,” it continued.

Sorry Moldova, there are no Neutrals.
Russian government and military need to be eradicated like the cockroaches they are.
Oligarchs are part of the government too, detain them and nationalize the fuck out of their corporations after draining their bank accounts. There is not a single good oligarch in existence.

I wouldn't kill them anyways. Being deported into another country with nothing but the clothes on their backs and no way to recover, likely becoming homeless, would be far more humiliating.
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« Reply #172 on: April 22, 2022, 10:56:28 pm »

Agreed.
To be honest, don't limit that to Russian oligarchs. It's time for global revolution against the oligarchs regardless of their nationality. Bring out the guillotines. It's time to end this world where there are people who own a million or more times more than those who make them their money. The gap between haves and have nots is bigger than it ever was in history.
The French nobles that got their heads chopped off during the French revolution had less relative wealth compared to the poor than our current richfucks have now.
Feudalism was less abusive than our current system.
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« Reply #173 on: April 22, 2022, 11:03:25 pm »

I'm just going to post a friendly reminder that many people live in a country of various opinions.

As for Putin, nobody rules alone. He obviously has vast numbers of people who support him, or he would not be in power. And the fact he's committing these atrocities so openly means plenty of folks in Russia accept/encourage these actions.

But not everyone.

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« Reply #174 on: April 22, 2022, 11:05:13 pm »

I'm just going to post a friendly reminder that many people live in a country of various opinions.

As for Putin, nobody rules alone. He obviously has vast numbers of people who support him, or he would not be in power. And the fact he's committing these atrocities so openly means plenty of folks in Russia accept/encourage these actions.

But not everyone.
Yeah. What pisses me off about people attacking the Russian people themselves is that it paints me and my friends as guilty by association. I didn't choose to be born here, why should I bear any guilt if I oppose the government's actions?
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« Reply #175 on: April 22, 2022, 11:05:32 pm »

Quite aware. Which is why I say, end the Russian government and end the Russian military. Not the Russian people.
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« Reply #176 on: April 22, 2022, 11:20:09 pm »

Quite aware. Which is why I say, end the Russian government and end the Russian military. Not the Russian people.
...I'm sure there is at least one Russian Government sanitation engineer in Siberia that isn't so bad.

My point being, Government encompasses a large number of things. So while those in charge at the National Level probably* need a clean sweep, some local lads and lasses might be worth keeping around.

*"Probably" meaning there could possibly be one or up to two leaders at the National Level that are redeemable. And I only say that because I don't know much about those folks. Maybe none are redeemable.

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« Reply #177 on: April 23, 2022, 12:00:33 am »

What boggles my mind - is there are people living in Ukraine, business as usual, especially on the west side.
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« Reply #178 on: April 23, 2022, 01:00:00 am »

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I will be entirely honest, I have never heard of this guy or his poems before. He seems cringe though. Keep on cherrypicking things to discredit Russian culture.

This is not a random nobody. Here is a quote on his Wikipedia page.

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According to Professor Andrey Ranchin of Moscow State University: “Brodsky is the only modern Russian poet whose body of work has already been awarded the honorary title of a canonized classic... Brodsky's literary canonization is an exceptional phenomenon. No other contemporary Russian writer has been honored as the hero of such a number of memoir texts; no other has had so many conferences devoted to them”.

Your country's public consciousness has a streak of blatant imperialism. It's condoned and supported at many institutional levels. It seeps into every corner of life. Really, when even your eminent poets think they should write something like this... It is a major part of the public sentiment, really the overall attitude of the Russian public. I think so many years under Soviet oppression, without a democratic government for any appreciable length of time even before then may have really stifled your country's "character" progression to a more fair, liberal society. My own personal anger at one loon's ramblings aside, I ask that you recognize this.

I greatly appreciate your moral support for Ukraine. It is good to have as many good-hearted and not indifferent people on our side as possible, wherever they may come from. And I really can't blame you for having a national identity, it's what we are trying to protect anyway.
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« Reply #179 on: April 23, 2022, 02:29:17 am »

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I will be entirely honest, I have never heard of this guy or his poems before. He seems cringe though. Keep on cherrypicking things to discredit Russian culture.

This is not a random nobody. Here is a quote on his Wikipedia page.

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According to Professor Andrey Ranchin of Moscow State University: “Brodsky is the only modern Russian poet whose body of work has already been awarded the honorary title of a canonized classic... Brodsky's literary canonization is an exceptional phenomenon. No other contemporary Russian writer has been honored as the hero of such a number of memoir texts; no other has had so many conferences devoted to them”.

Your country's public consciousness has a streak of blatant imperialism. It's condoned and supported at many institutional levels. It seeps into every corner of life. Really, when even your eminent poets think they should write something like this... It is a major part of the public sentiment, really the overall attitude of the Russian public. I think so many years under Soviet oppression, without a democratic government for any appreciable length of time even before then may have really stifled your country's "character" progression to a more fair, liberal society. My own personal anger at one loon's ramblings aside, I ask that you recognize this.

I greatly appreciate your moral support for Ukraine. It is good to have as many good-hearted and not indifferent people on our side as possible, wherever they may come from. And I really can't blame you for having a national identity, it's what we are trying to protect anyway.
Oh I know, many people here support Putin. This is what not having a democratic government for a long time does to a country: people get brainwashed into... that.

I'm very sorry if I came across as rude or insensitive, I just like reading Russian literature and poetry (mostly either classic or Soviet drama or modern genre fiction) and the bulk of it isn't really imperialist, so it struck a nerve.
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