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[brewer bob]

The Guardian reports that Elon Musk spoke with Putin before his "peace" plan tweet:

Elon Musk spoke to Putin before tweeting Ukraine peace plan - report

Elon Musk spoke directly to Vladimir Putin before tweeting his peace plan to end the war in Ukraine that would have seen territory permanently handed over to Russia, according to a report.

In a mailout sent to Eurasia Group subscribers, Ian Bremmer claimed Musk told him that the Russian president was “prepared to negotiate” if Crimea remained in Russian hands.

Putin also reportedly insisted to the Tesla CEO that Ukraine would have to accept permanent neutrality and recognise Russia’s annexation of Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions.

According to Bremmer, Musk said Putin told him these goals would be reached “no matter what”, including the possible use of nuclear weapons if Ukraine invaded Crimea.

Bremmer wrote that Musk told him that “everything needed to be done to avoid that outcome”.

Following the alleged conversation with Putin, Musk posted a Twitter poll with his suggestions for ending the war in Ukraine.

Musk argued that to reach peace, Russia should be allowed to keep the Crimea Peninsula that it seized in 2014.

He also proposed holding votes in parts of Ukraine occupied by Russia that the Kremlin says it is annexing. “Russia leaves if that is will of the people,” he said.

[Strongpoint]

The Guardian reports that Elon Musk spoke with Putin before his "peace" plan tweet:

Elon Musk spoke to Putin before tweeting Ukraine peace plan - report

Elon Musk spoke directly to Vladimir Putin before tweeting his peace plan to end the war in Ukraine that would have seen territory permanently handed over to Russia, according to a report.

In a mailout sent to Eurasia Group subscribers, Ian Bremmer claimed Musk told him that the Russian president was “prepared to negotiate” if Crimea remained in Russian hands.

Putin also reportedly insisted to the Tesla CEO that Ukraine would have to accept permanent neutrality and recognise Russia’s annexation of Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions.

According to Bremmer, Musk said Putin told him these goals would be reached “no matter what”, including the possible use of nuclear weapons if Ukraine invaded Crimea.

Bremmer wrote that Musk told him that “everything needed to be done to avoid that outcome”.

Following the alleged conversation with Putin, Musk posted a Twitter poll with his suggestions for ending the war in Ukraine.

Musk argued that to reach peace, Russia should be allowed to keep the Crimea Peninsula that it seized in 2014.

He also proposed holding votes in parts of Ukraine occupied by Russia that the Kremlin says it is annexing. “Russia leaves if that is will of the people,” he said.

Oh... And I thought he got a sexy Russian mistress or spent a few hours watching Russia Today.

Well, Putin is experienced in manipulating rich fucks. It is one of the cornerstones of his power in Russia

[King Zultan]

Why do people like Elon anyway, he seems like a dick.

[Magmacube_tr]

Why do people like Elon anyway, he seems like a dick.

Because people are suckers for personality cults.

[anewaname]

There must be a story about how Musk got into that conversation... It is not like anyone else is talking about their conversations with Putin.

Musk: "I'm bored.... let's see if Putin will take my call."

[brewer bob]

There must be a story about how Musk got into that conversation... It is not like anyone else is talking about their conversations with Putin.

Yeah, my first thought was how and why Musk spoke with Putin in the first place.

[MaxTheFox]

Russian agent.

[Magmacube_tr]

Russian agent.

WHERE-

[Cathar]

Elon Musk also did cut Starlink for Ukraine, as soon as it became relevant due to infrastructure failure. Ukrainian are smart to not have approved it for military purpouses, and I hope the rest of the world will remember it.

[EuchreJack]

Elon Musk also did cut Starlink for Ukraine, as soon as it became relevant due to infrastructure failure. Ukrainian are smart to not have approved it for military purpouses, and I hope the rest of the world will remember it.

...they won't

[bloop_bleep]

Meh, Musk's PR has taken a solid nosedive past few months/years, relative to when he was rather new to being talked about online. It remains to be seen how it fares in the future.

[Strongpoint]

Elon Musk also did cut Starlink for Ukraine, as soon as it became relevant due to infrastructure failure. Ukrainian are smart to not have approved it for military purpouses, and I hope the rest of the world will remember it.

As far as I know, he didn't cut Starlink for all of Ukraine... He cut Starlink for Crimea and this stops us from using toys like this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[EuchreJack]

Elon Musk also did cut Starlink for Ukraine, as soon as it became relevant due to infrastructure failure. Ukrainian are smart to not have approved it for military purpouses, and I hope the rest of the world will remember it.

As far as I know, he didn't cut Starlink for all of Ukraine... He cut Starlink for Crimea and this stops us from using toys like this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Darn, it looks like the hobbyists are out of the war for now...

[King Zultan]

That's a fancy boat there, a UAV is like a bomb or something?

[Lord Shonus]

In this context, "UAV" means Unmanned Aquatic Vehicle - a drone boat. It is theorized that that particular one is a suicide attack unit, and there's speculation that a bigger brother was involved in upgrading the Crimea bridge to offer tours of the Moskva, but very little information is available.