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Author Topic: No sliver barbs on an embark that definitely has them as one of the plant pops?  (Read 1577 times)

Tachytaenius

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No sliver barbs on an embark that definitely has them as one of the plant pops?
« on: March 23, 2022, 12:03:55 pm »
Used biomemanipulator to get a nice embark, but there are no sliver barbs. I'm iterating over all plants with dfhack and there really are none. Do sliver barbs not grow in certain biomes? Mine is a temperate grassland.
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Re: No sliver barbs on an embark that definitely has them as one of the plant pops?
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2022, 01:05:14 pm »
Weird.  According to the wiki, they have a 100% chance to appear in non-freezing evil biomes.

Maybe the particular biome you checked is artifically evil?  If there are glumprong trees, this is not a problem, since glumprongs have the same restrictions.

Maybe they will show up over the course of a year.  I've read that some desert fortresses accidentally turn into lush oasis after a while.  Picking the currently available plants should make space for new wild crops, as well.
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Re: No sliver barbs on an embark that definitely has them as one of the plant pops?
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2022, 04:34:30 pm »
Been about 3 years and the biome isn't ev-- wait, is it that they can grow in farm plots in any evilness but only as shrubs in evil? Crap
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Re: No sliver barbs on an embark that definitely has them as one of the plant pops?
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2022, 03:46:45 am »
ah, dang, whoops
why do you want them?
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Re: No sliver barbs on an embark that definitely has them as one of the plant pops?
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2022, 05:31:25 am »
Black dye, of course.
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Re: No sliver barbs on an embark that definitely has them as one of the plant pops?
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2022, 12:28:35 am »
I thought that sliver dye was greyer than black? The dorfs do love dyed fabrics.
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Re: No sliver barbs on an embark that definitely has them as one of the plant pops?
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2022, 12:47:22 am »
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[PLANT:SLIVER_BARB]
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    [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:MILL:PLANT_POWDER_TEMPLATE]
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         [POWDER_DYE:BLACK]
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Re: No sliver barbs on an embark that definitely has them as one of the plant pops?
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2022, 03:08:39 am »
Quote from: Thisfox on March 25, 2022, 12:28:35 am
I thought that sliver dye was greyer than black? The dorfs do love dyed fabrics.
Funnily enough it's actually for an adventurer/hermit fort human's outfit.
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Re: No sliver barbs on an embark that definitely has them as one of the plant pops?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2022, 07:01:20 am »
Sphere sub-divisions (death, blight, disease) destroy plant life, so i think your queries probably just got a lot smaller.

In a alternative (modded) scenario, you can embark as common as any other garden plant silver barbs if you:

A & B) Enabled the civ you played as to use_evil_plants token, & had the creature be [EVIL] to settle ontop/close adjacent of evil land & farm.
C) A&B'ers have issues in that its not drawn into the civilization because the plant itself has no use to encourage them to farm it and the game is iffy with passing off multiple stage processes, so silver barb seeds would need to be cookable to encourage them to stock silver barb dye & gutter cruor and naturally use it in their clothing.

Above issues are similar for tree woods too like glumprong, from a 'embark with' and 'civilization uses it' on their own accord.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2022, 07:07:54 am by FantasticDorf »
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