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[ToonyMan]

Actually, sorry I didn't say that properly.

Jim should be more suspicious than Roden from your POV, can you see why?

[Maximum Spin]

Here is a question for you, ToonyMan, whether you are real or an emanation of swamp gases:

Do you believe that it would be wrong for a player to hold suspicions against three or more others, because we have been told there are two killers? You seem to have implied several times that you do.

[4maskwolf]

Toony's play is fuckin' whack this game, moreso than usual. I've been trying to tamp down my paranoia because I know I'm bad at reading him and if he's town and we can find each other then the game is probably already resolved but urrrrrrrrgh.

I'm gonna go reread D1 of the last Wubba BYOR for comparison.

[4maskwolf]

Yeah Toony's way more laid back and casual this game and it's freaking me out.

Like if he's town it's nice but I look at a major attitude shift and my first thought is "wolf". Especially since being more casual and carefree can be a wolftell for good wolves and Toony is a good player.

[webadict]

Vote count program has been updated to account for WHEN a player was voted! Votes are now ordered chronologically (Non-voters are still sorted alphabetically.)!

Vote Count
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4maskwolf - 0 -
EuchreJack - 0 -
Jim Groovester - 0 -
Knightwing64 - 1 - Roden*,
Maximum Spin - 1 - ToonyMan*,
Roden - 3 - Vector*, Knightwing64*,
ToonyMan - 1 - TricMagic*,
TricMagic - 0 -
Vector - 2 - Maximum Spin*, Jim Groovester*,
No One - 0 -

Not Voting - 2 - 4maskwolf*, EuchreJack*,

5 to Hammer. Day ends on March 24, 2022 at 20:00 CDT (~28 hours remaining).

[4maskwolf]

EuchreJack

I have no meta read here but their entire ISO is full of little wolfy things.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

So, after decrypting my role, I'm basically an Ascetic that reads mafia.  I can't be roleblocked or tracked or seen by others, yet I can be inspected and will flip mafia.

While I'd make a fine policy lynch, I do have Tracker+ as my investigative ability. 
The Plus is reserved for tomorrow, if you should decide to keep me alive to prove that claim.

Without getting into any other claims "mafia-reading ninja" sounds like claiming mind-shielded vigilante in Paranormal: theoretically possible, but in 90% of cases an anti-town fakeclaim.

The wolf team is Jim and Toony, everyone vote them kthnxbye.

I assume that it is just your crazy mafiascum.net style to accuse Jim without Jim even posting.
I find this offensive, as I can usually read Jim pretty well.
So 4maskwolf

This defensiveness of Jim is weird and pockety, especially since they turn around and irritation-vote Jim immediately after for the all-caps gimmick.

I'm backing off 4maskwolf because I realize I can't actually read them from a meta standpoint, and that caused me to join in mislynching them in a previous game.

Hm, I think my problem with 4maskwolf is the lack of hunting. They stopped voting me primarily to get me to stop voting them.
Notice the mud getting slung onto Toonyman without actually attacking Toonyman. Note Tric took the bait...
@4maskwolf: Who do you think is scum? Why?

At no point between these two posts did EuchreJack and I interact, and he goes from saying "eh, I have no idea how to metaread 4mask" to "4mask only called me town to get me to stop voting him." What.

Hm, at least Jim has convinced me Tric is Town Vigilante.

This comment is still fuckin' whack and I'm not sure what to make of it, it's completely out of context and anti-town to say even if he genuinely believes that. It toes the line between "WTF town" and "wolf throwing out random shit" but when combined with the rest of the ISO I'm inclined to believe the second.

I can sign on to a Jim/Toonyman scum team
In fact Toonyman.

Who wants to Hammer?
If Toony flips Town, it's a hard Day 2 for the Hammerer.

Openly acknowledging what you're attempting is anti-town. No wolf is going to jump on that grenade when you say "oooh look this guy's up for hammer who wants to hammer them", at least not if the player is actually town. IME wolves are way more likely to say this because they think they need to point it out to make themselves look good "oh look at me I'm so townie I'm trying to bait a wolf hammer".

Honestly I'm stopping there because I could go through and hyper-analyze every single Euchrejack post but that's both unhelpful and more likely to muddle the issue than clarify it. I encourage everyone to go read through EuchreJack's posts and focus on their progression. They're constantly bouncing around, throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks, and their progression on people never feels natural, just manufactured to whatever they happen to latch onto at the time. And none of this in a townie way, either, it feels agenda-y, "Imma throw shade around and see what sticks" kinda way.

[Jim Groovester]

EUCHREJACK'S PLAY REGULARLY BEING COMPLETE NONSENSE IS NOT EVEN REMOTELY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR HIM.

ALTHOUGH I'LL SAY THAT EUCHREJACK DOES FEEL OFF THIS GAME COMPARED TO SOME OF THE RECENT GAMES I'VE PLAYED WITH HIM. IN THOSE RECENT GAMES EUCHREJACK SURPRISED ME BY MAKING SENSE ROUGHLY HALF THE TIME COMPARED TO OLDER GAMES AND THIS GAME WHERE HE MADE SENSE NONE OF THE TIME. SO THIS GAME IS STILL CONSISTENT WITH MY META READ OF HIM BUT IT'S MORE LIKE I'M SEEING EUCHREJACK VERSION 1.0 COMPARED TO EUCHREJACK VERSION 1.2 I SAW MORE RECENTLY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF THIS.

TOONYMAN FEELS OFF TO ME AS WELL AND IF I HAD TO DESCRIBE IT IT FEELS LIKE HE'S MORE PLIABLE, MORE SUGGESTIBLE THAN I FEEL LIKE I'M USED TO.



I WANT VECTOR TO PLAY.

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I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE A CONSENSUS DEVELOP FOR THE DAY 1 LYNCH.

[4maskwolf]

TOONYMAN FEELS OFF TO ME AS WELL AND IF I HAD TO DESCRIBE IT IT FEELS LIKE HE'S MORE PLIABLE, MORE SUGGESTIBLE THAN I FEEL LIKE I'M USED TO.

I WANT VECTOR TO PLAY.

Both big moods.

It's also hard to play when everyone is expected to spew nonsense and I can't read them lmao.

[EuchreJack]

Fuck you all, my dad just died. Hence Jack 1.0 rather than Jack 1.2

[EuchreJack]

Toonyman

[EuchreJack]

Disregarding meta, does 4makwolf's analysis versus me make sense?
Is it a natural progression based upon their previous posts?

[EuchreJack]

I'd welcome further analysis of my play by 4maskwolf, although in spoiler text to avoid clogging up the thread.
I would like to play better.

[TricMagic]

Fuck you all, my dad just died. Hence Jack 1.0 rather than Jack 1.2

Sends virtual hugs.

Roden is very much in hammer range if there is anyone else with vote alteration. I kinda doubt it though. And Toonyman seems to be playing off to me too. Laid back is very much a good way to put it, other than defending Vector.

Also, please do not murder Jack without reasons beyond his posts? He doesn't really feel scummy to me.

[TricMagic]

Granted, I have my own reasons for that, which will be revealed if I die.

[Maximum Spin]

You guys should just vote for Vector.