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[McTraveller]

Source? I don't see it on Al Jazeera, which is not really biased in favor of the West.

I also don't see it on BBC.  Not on CNN either.

In general - please include sources for all claims of info.  Friendly reminder!

EDIT: closest I could find was something on BBC (timestamp 14:23) quoting a Chinese official saying the sanctions are outrageous, and that "history has proven" that sanctions cannot solve problems.  I'm not sure what else anyone is supposed to use to solve this problem other than weapons.  If there's a third alternative, we're all ears!

[The_Explorer]

It seems to be this one article, no idea how legit the source is as I've never heard of them. Or maybe I have heard of axios and I just don't remember, lots to keep track of and my memory is terrible.

https://www.axios.com/china-vice-foreign-minister-nato-ukraine-russia-eef8dea1-2b7e-4e03-8c15-d32b2cfc2f50.html

[martinuzz]

Source? I don't see it on Al Jazeera, which is not really biased in favor of the West.

I also don't see it on BBC.  Not on CNN either.

In general - please include sources for all claims of info.  Friendly reminder!

EDIT: closest I could find was something on BBC (timestamp 14:23) quoting a Chinese official saying the sanctions are outrageous, and that "history has proven" that sanctions cannot solve problems.  I'm not sure what else anyone is supposed to use to solve this problem other than weapons.  If there's a third alternative, we're all ears!

My usual source, de Volkskrant, Ukraine live blog.
https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/zelenski-vraagt-zwitserland-oligarchen-harder-aan-te-pakken-in-totaal-228-burgerdoden-in-kyiv~bab21952/

De Navo had zich moeten houden aan haar ‘belofte’ zich niet verder naar het oosten uit te breiden. Dat heeft de Chinese onderminister van Buitenlandse Zaken vandaag gezegd in een speech waarin hij zich kritisch uitliet over de harde westerse sancties tegen Rusland.

De hoofdoorzaak van de oorlog in Oekraïne is volgens de hoge Chinese diplomaat, Le Yucheng, ‘Koude Oorlogsmentaliteit en machtspolitiek’. Hij zei, variërend op een Russisch thema, dat ‘als de uitbreiding van de Navo zo doorgaat, de alliantie de buitenwijken van Moskou zou bereiken waar een raket binnen 7 of 8 minuten het Kremlin kan raken’.

Dat westerse expansieve beleid is gevaarlijk, aldus de onderminister. ‘Wie een groot land, en zeker een kernmacht, in de hoek drijft, krijgt te maken met gevolgen die te gruwelijk zijn om over na te denken.’

Le Yucheng echoode in Beijing de opvatting van de Russische president Poetin dat de Navo zich na de Koude Oorlog had moeten opheffen en in de geschiedenis had moeten worden bijgezet naast het Warschau Pact. ‘Maar in plaats daarvan bleef de Navo zich versterken en uitbreiden en militair ingrijpen in landen als Joegoslavië, Irak, Syrië en Afghanistan.’

De kritiek is saillant, één dag na het videogesprek tussen de Amerikaanse president Joe Biden en de Chinese president Xi Jinping. Daarin stond de Oekraïne-oorlog centraal. Biden waarschuwde Xi in dat gesprek dat Chinese steun voor Rusland gevolgen krijgt. Xi benadrukte volgens Le Yucheng het belang van een diplomatieke oplossing van het conflict en de noodzaak van dialoog tussen het Westen en Rusland over de ‘kern van de Oekraïnecrisis’, de veiligheidszorgen van Oekraïne en Rusland.

[brewer bob]

The mayor of Mariupol claims some thousand residents have been sent to Russia from the besieged city.

Spoiler: from BBC (click to show/hide)

Mariupol residents sent to Russia - mayor
Hugo Bachega
BBC News, Lviv

The mayor of Mariupol says several thousand residents from the besieged city have been sent to Russia.

In a message on Telegram, Vadym Boychenko, said that some were redirected to remote cities in Russia, while the fate of others remained unknown.

The BBC has not been able to verify the claim.

"What the occupiers are doing today is familiar to the older generation, who saw the horrific events of World War II, when the Nazis forcibly captured people," Boychenko said.

"It is hard to imagine that in the 21st Century people will be forcibly deported to another country.

About 300,000 people are trapped inside the city, as food and medical supplies run out and Russia blocks the entry of humanitarian aid.

Russian attacks have hit a hospital, a church and countless apartment blocks, with local officials estimating that about 80% of residential buildings are either damaged or destroyed, a third of them beyond repair.

Mariupol has seen some of the fiercest battles since Russia invaded Ukraine, three weeks ago.

The location of the port city, on the Sea of Azov, is strategic for Russia, as it would help it create a land corridor between the eastern regions of Donetsk and Luhansk, controlled by Russian-backed separatists, and Crimea, the peninsula it invaded and annexed in 2014.

[Il Palazzo]

My usual source, de Volkskrant, Ukraine live blog.

Could you maybe post only those news that you can source to a reputable English-language news outlet, rather than reposting from your local newspaper? Or at least report closely what it says, without rephrasing. It's kinda hard to check the veracity when we have to dig through your own spin, use google translate, and then comb the internets to find where the editorial staff of your newspaper took the news from.
I would kinda get it if you were located in Ukraine, or even in one of the bordering countries. But a Dutch newspaper doesn't have any special insight on the current goings-on, so there's really nothing gained from using it instead of BBC, Al Jazeera, CNN, The Economist, (or more directly) Reuters, Associated Press, AFP, or any other large, reputable outlet that is not shy about citing its sources - they all run, or are the source of, the same stories as in your paper (unless it's something related to the Netherlands).

[LordBaal]

Oh lord... they are most likley prisoners of war/hostages for future negotiations. Being hostages is the best they can expect, the worst is organ harvesting, sex slavery and regular slavery, besides you know, ending up up dead (implicit in the first option).

[delphonso]

Fuck your mother, China.

(Chinese ministry of Foreign Affairs said the war in Ukraine is NATO's fault, NATO is the agressor, Russia had no choice but to defend itself against agressive NATO that wants to put nuclear missiles in the outer suburbs of Moscow).

So yeah, fuck your mother, China.

This has been in the newspapers here since it started, in not so direct words. The sentiment is that this is a war of NATO aggression because they're encroaching on Russia's ('the East's') domain by encouraging Ukraine to join NATO ('the West'). To swallow this reasoning, you have to believe that the USSR's borders are still active and that Russia is still the ruler of its previous territory, despite losing a war about that.

This lines up well with China's reasoning when it comes to HK, Tibet and Taiwan (and in far future, Laos). The narrative is one the country would like to push, but I doubt will make much headway in actual justification of wars.

[Strongpoint]

Meanwhile, the last Belarusian diplomats have left Ukraine and more and more troops are reported in the vicinity of Brest. Yay! One more front.

[Strongpoint]

The Defense Forces of Ukraine eliminated the Deputy Commander of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation Andrey Paliy
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/ukrainian-defense-forces-eliminated-the-deputy-commander-of-the-russian-black-sea-fleet/
Rest In Piss if true, this war criminal what glorious neck he had...

Born in Kyiv, Ukrainian surname... Traitors are worse than any other kind of enemy.

[hector13]

As an aside, Boris Johnson compared the plight of the Ukrainians fighting against an authoritarian regime trying to stop them from getting closer to Europe to Britain voting for Brexit.

Far be it from him to take the get out of jail free card that is a hugely distracting global crisis and instead try to use said crisis to remind people he is a complete and utter tit.

[Strongpoint]

As an aside, Boris Johnson compared the plight of the Ukrainians fighting against an authoritarian regime trying to stop them from getting closer to Europe to Britain voting for Brexit.

Far be it from him to take the get out of jail free card that is a hugely distracting global crisis and instead try to use said crisis to remind people he is a complete and utter tit.

Brexit is one of the most successful operations of Russia in its war against the West. I am not saying that it was the sole or even the main reason of it happening but Russia did put considerable effort in weakening the EU and making France and Germany (both full of corrupt Pro-Russian politicians and business elites) more important.

[martinuzz]

Yes, Russian instigators lit the Brexit flame, at the very least.

EDIT: In Mariupol, the Academy of Arts was levelled by Russian bombs. About 400 people were sheltering inside, they are now buried beneath rubble.

[Starver]

Far be it from him to take the get out of jail free card that is a hugely distracting global crisis and instead try to use said crisis to remind people he is a complete and utter tit.

Though there are rumblings, Putin did Johnson a biiiig favour in that, just before the invasion, there were very serious questions about his competence as PM which, for most previous PMs would have probably triggered their honourable resignation over the matter. Except that Boris is a greater lesser man than any of those and was dodging that particular bullet.

As a great admirer and student of Churchill (who had his own issues but, I feel, would have probably gone the route of re-establishing himself rather than hanging on by his fingertips when it was just his own butt on the line) I imagine he's relishing his wartime-leader possibilities (see also the Thatcher-bounce, post-Falklands, but not Eden/Suez, etc) but, perhaps gratifyingly, it seems he knows/fears the limits of direct national confrontation.

And his team in government are being roundly and rightly condemned for continuing the general counter-humanitarian policies that is their signature staple approach, even as the public has been stepping up to the plate (admittedly because they are perceived as more 'our kind of refugees' than all those other refugees that there has been an ambivalent split of attitude to, in recent years).

It's going to be awkward when there's no more potential "we're just waiting for the (next) report, it would be precipitous to act before the (latest) investigation is fully concluded", and it definitely helps that there's Ukraine 'happening'. But at some point there must be an impression that "there has always been war in Ukraine" (assuming it doesn't resolve/escalate somehow) and even if there isn't a reckoning for being entirely hypocritical (if not in the above case, probably something new, or newly rediscovered, because it's his general bumbling manner - with or without a logic of steel behind some of them - that bounces around and does that sort of thing that variously endears/deplores people of him at pretty much every point of his political(/journalistic) career, so far.

But Vlad did Boris a solid, definitely. There's a good chance even he might have been toppled by the back-bench Tories who (either truly, or acting to 'support' their constituency views.... or being machiovellian for their own purposes) continued to put on the pressure.

[martinuzz]

My predicted number of refugees has been reached.
According to the UNHCR, 10 million Ukrainians have fled their country.

Sometimes I feel like Cassandra. People called me irrealistic and an idiot when I predicted 10 million refugees some 5 weeks ago.

[Il Palazzo]

My predicted number of refugees has been reached.
According to the UNHCR, 10 million Ukrainians have fled their country.

Sometimes I feel like Cassandra. People called me irrealistic and an idiot when I predicted 10 million refugees some 5 weeks ago.

Uh, no. 10 million are now displaced - this includes internally. It's not the same as 10 million leaving Ukraine.