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[a1s]

I have not forgotten I signed up for this. Just trying out a few nations.

[USEC_OFFICER]

I can't seem to get water expansion going in a way I'm satisfied with, so instead I'm going with MA C'tis. Part of the issue is that Valanis's long and winding river ocean limits expansion routes, so it's pretty easy to have an overly strong group of indies blocking progress until reinforcements arrive. Sticking with a land nation is probably going to be easier and more enjoyable for me.

And yes, I've already submitted my pretender.

[E. Albright]

If USEC isn't doing something wet, I'll force myself even further out of my comfort zone and take Ys. I'm not keen on ceding the underworld AND the underwater to slimy cyclopean newts. You're welcome. 

I will stipulate that I'm more than a little worried about the #nostart provinces for UW on this map - and that's as much my fault as anyone, since the Finn revision appears to have added a handful more #nostarts than there were when I winterized the map. I don't think I even touched nostarts, TBH, but I should have. The majority of wet provinces are startable, and an awful lot of those have only 2 wet neighbors, so I may be effectively losing on turn 1. We Shall See.

[EuchreJack]

Thanks E. Albright, I was going to try out an UW nation with virtually no experience with it.
Maybe consider Pelagia? I was seriously considering them as The Sole UW nation.  They're not very competitive with Atlantis or R'lyeh, but without another UW nation they seem to balance the water/coast well enough.

I'd be OK with a reroll if our token UW nation is unplayable Turn 1.

Back to crafting THE ULTIMATE STRATEGY for Mictlan.  Maybe I would be better off with one of the UW nations...

[E. Albright]

Nah. Pelegia may be less wildly not-me than Ys, but it also doesn't have swans, so there's really no choice between these two.

[EuchreJack]

So, I emailed my pretender to pretenders[at]llamaserver[dot]net.  My subject was Bay12Round505.  I attached my file mid_mictlan_0.2h
Not logged by the game.  How did I fuck this up?
(I always fuck this up.  Usually because the instructions are wrong, or I misread the instructions.)
Subject was wrong.

Game: Bay12Round505

IS WRONG.  Game is "Bay12GamesRound505"
Instructions were correct.  My reading...not so much.  But this was also wrong, so not totally my fault!  Yay!

[MCreeper]

Ouch. Fixed.

[EuchreJack]

Ouch. Fixed.

Thanks for your quick attention to this. Hopefully, it will save someone else some pain in the future.

[USEC_OFFICER]

If USEC isn't doing something wet, I'll force myself even further out of my comfort zone and take Ys.

MA C'tis isn't humid and swampy enough?

And I am also fine with a restart if the RNG hates Ys. I know from my testing how mean it can be.

[Il Palazzo]

If USEC isn't doing something wet, I'll force myself even further out of my comfort zone and take Ys.

>E.A. takes underwater nation
>out of comfort zone
>does not compute

[Karlito]

In my mind, Ys is more of a land nation that gets an UW capital.

[kriv02]

In my mind, Ys is more of a land nation that gets an UW capital.

And my ability to project power UW is very thankful for that.

[EuchreJack]

MA Agartha is fairly powerful on the Land as well...

[E. Albright]

MA Argartha isn't as nasty as it was in Dom4, but it's definitely not weak wet OR dry.

[EuchreJack]

...unlike Mictlan.