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Author Topic: The Big Random Questions Thread  (Read 15997 times)

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« Reply #150 on: October 12, 2022, 08:20:21 am »

What would happen if there was a worldwide string of mass jailbreaks?

A lot of people would go see family members and it'd probably be pretty sweet for a day or two. Of course some people would seek out grudges, or return to some illegal habits.

Best case scenario it teaches the world to rethink penal systems.

If they don't return to a life of crime after getting out then there's no need to rethink anything: that means the system worked.
Almost... It means that many of the people didn't need to be held, perhaps due to rehabilitation, but continued to be held. I'm not expecting parole boards to be perfect here, but I also wouldn't say "The positive results of removing the system demonstrate that the system was positive"
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« Reply #151 on: October 12, 2022, 09:57:25 am »

You aren't removing the system: they broke out. It only demonstrates that it has worked whether as rehabilitation or discouragement. Before, he committed crime, afterwards, he does not. The penalty is the factor in between.


Realistically, massive manhunts everywhere, and a massive amount of people willing to do questionable things not to get manhunted.

Every country ends up with areas controlled by de facto warlords?

No. There are more criminals outside of prison at any point than there is inside. If that was enough to somehow turn society into cartoon warlordocracy that would already have happened.
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« Reply #152 on: October 12, 2022, 01:57:38 pm »

I do agree that it indicates that the system rehabilitated people.  However, a theoretical system that rehabilitated 90% of inmates and never released any of them would be as useful as one that rehabilitated no-one.  Part of a useful rehabilitation is to release the person back into society.

Release carries a measure of risk, as all things do.  It's a lot of work to do accurately, but it's equally as important as the rehabilitation itself.
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« Reply #153 on: October 12, 2022, 03:04:50 pm »


Realistically, massive manhunts everywhere, and a massive amount of people willing to do questionable things not to get manhunted.

Every country ends up with areas controlled by de facto warlords?

No. There are more criminals outside of prison at any point than there is inside. If that was enough to somehow turn society into cartoon warlordocracy that would already have happened.

With a active manhunt and a worldwide spook over escaped prisoners?

That's how you get properly coordinated, motivated armies of jailbreakers.
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« Reply #154 on: October 12, 2022, 11:13:52 pm »

...this is stupid

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« Reply #155 on: October 13, 2022, 04:32:15 am »

From what I've read the criminals that try to and sometimes succeed in escaping are the violent ones, you know the kind that need to stay in jail so they don't keep raping and murdering.
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« Reply #156 on: October 13, 2022, 08:51:33 am »

...this is stupid

Why?

Mate, we have shit like this in the world today. https://twitter.com/Galactic_Trader/status/1579336741282275330

Literally airdropped armed robot dogs. I don't know about you but I'm not so sure prisons are going to hold up.
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« Reply #157 on: October 13, 2022, 09:42:09 am »

Why?
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« Reply #158 on: October 13, 2022, 11:04:34 am »

Why are you all so convinced the 21st century is going to be entirely normal?

And IL Palazzo, I'm impressed by your ability to miss out the middle bit about the fucking airdropped armed robot dogs which was driving my concern. If you don't buy the video, read an article. https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2021/03/spot-the-robot-dog-has-been-weaponised/. If you don't believe the article, look at Spot yourself and see if it's so hard to believe.
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« Reply #159 on: October 13, 2022, 11:37:58 am »

The vast, vast, vast majority of people in prison are non-violent.

Edit: rather, imprisoned for non-violent crimes.

Edit 2: even then, there are an estimated 11.5 million people in prison in the world, including detention centers like the Uighur camps in China.
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« Reply #160 on: October 13, 2022, 11:34:48 pm »

From what I've read the criminals that try to and sometimes succeed in escaping are the violent ones, you know the kind that need to stay in jail so they don't keep raping and murdering.
Ideally, the only ones with prison sentences so long that it's worth escaping and getting MORE time are the ones serving the long sentences for rape and murder, and NOT the theft/drug offenders who can just wait out clock.

Why are you all so convinced the 21st century is going to be entirely normal?

And IL Palazzo, I'm impressed by your ability to miss out the middle bit about the fucking airdropped armed robot dogs which was driving my concern. If you don't buy the video, read an article. https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2021/03/spot-the-robot-dog-has-been-weaponised/. If you don't believe the article, look at Spot yourself and see if it's so hard to believe.

Again, this is stupid. I knew we were going to have armed robotic combatants about 5 years ago.
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« Reply #161 on: October 14, 2022, 05:10:40 am »

Novel I'm not sure how you can take anything like that on Twitter seriously, also war robots are inevitable as if something can be weaponized it will be.
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« Reply #162 on: October 14, 2022, 07:38:09 am »

Why are you all so convinced the 21st century is going to be entirely normal?

All the centuries so far has been.

The vast, vast, vast majority of people in prison are non-violent.

Edit: rather, imprisoned for non-violent crimes.

Look at what these people get up to when left unwatched



Complete pandemonium
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« Reply #163 on: October 14, 2022, 04:22:24 pm »

I agree that it has no guarantee of happening, it's just a possibility.

But mate... at a certain point "all the centuries before" didn't have man-made fire. All this media we make these days is partly preparation for just how weird things could get.
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« Reply #164 on: October 14, 2022, 04:37:28 pm »

'Everything is possible therefore this thing is probable' is not a valid line of reasoning. It's Ancient Aliens-level logic.
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