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rico6822

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Why The Fuck I Can't Play As Elephant Man?
« on: December 26, 2021, 05:38:35 am »

I literally set temperature everywhere to WARM so I can only have tropical forests everywhere at max drainage and rainfall. That's a biome of elephants.

I only gave my world moderate and high savagery areas. Several times I repeated generation and no elephant men but the same animal people options were constant.

When I use regular world generator I can play as them but advanced is fucking astonishing.

I just wanted to ensure that I will always have bronze colossi in my world for stat farming and lazy people could copy and paste my settings.

Also I intentionally only have one dwarven civ in my pocket world. Does that prevent elephant men from joining somehow? DO I REALLY NEED SOME FUCKING HUMANITY FOR IT?

I WANT MY HUMANITY RESTORED!!!
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Re: Why The Fuck I Can't Play As Elephant Man?
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2021, 06:19:56 am »

Elves tend to be where elephantmen originate - I think because of proximity, but it could be cultural values too.

Did you mod dwarves to build in the forsts?

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Re: Why The Fuck I Can't Play As Elephant Man?
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2021, 06:33:49 am »

Elves tend to be where elephantmen originate - I think because of proximity, but it could be cultural values too.

Did you mod dwarves to build in the forsts?

No, they reside still in mountains.

How is that elephant men get recruit by elves but not dwarves?

I had one time an elephant men playable from human civ.

I literally only have mountains, oceans and forests in my world.
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Re: Why The Fuck I Can't Play As Elephant Man?
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2021, 07:06:10 am »

I'm not expert, but I believe it is mostly local populations joining, thus why elves have so many. Older worlds will also have migrations and conquests mix the pot a bit. If you want elephant men, the best bet would be to have dearves build hillocks in forests, or have elves in the world and let history run for a while.

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Re: Why The Fuck I Can't Play As Elephant Man?
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2021, 08:36:49 am »

I'm not expert, but I believe it is mostly local populations joining, thus why elves have so many. Older worlds will also have migrations and conquests mix the pot a bit. If you want elephant men, the best bet would be to have dearves build hillocks in forests, or have elves in the world and let history run for a while.

Now I have another problem.

No matter how many times I do this or how large is the world elven civs die quickly (under 50 years) to a random megabeast out of 4 in the entire world.

Do you know the range of megabeast attacks? Does water stop them? Is there any way to prevent them from attacking?
« Last Edit: December 26, 2021, 08:47:13 am by rico6822 »
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Re: Why The Fuck I Can't Play As Elephant Man?
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2021, 02:10:43 pm »

you would likely need to keep regenerating until that doesn't happen. which is unlikely, if you are playing on high megabeast pop or a smaller world size. You could try upping the civs generated as well, or I believe there is a trick to 'duplicate' the civ and thus increase the available population.
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Re: Why The Fuck I Can't Play As Elephant Man?
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2021, 11:10:03 pm »

you would likely need to keep regenerating until that doesn't happen. which is unlikely, if you are playing on high megabeast pop or a smaller world size. You could try upping the civs generated as well, or I believe there is a trick to 'duplicate' the civ and thus increase the available population.

I solved elves not surviving by adding night trolls. I think it's because elves reach high population quickly and that triggers attacks.

For some reason I can't play as them.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2021, 11:12:11 pm by rico6822 »
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Re: Why The Fuck I Can't Play As Elephant Man?
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2021, 11:16:36 pm »

You could make this all quite a bit easier by just adding [OUTSIDER_CONTROLLABLE] to elephantmen.

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Re: Why The Fuck I Can't Play As Elephant Man?
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2021, 09:33:53 am »

You could make this all quite a bit easier by just adding [OUTSIDER_CONTROLLABLE] to elephantmen.

That would be cheating considering how easy it is to do and only humans having it.
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Re: Why The Fuck I Can't Play As Elephant Man?
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2021, 08:14:19 pm »

You could make this all quite a bit easier by just adding [OUTSIDER_CONTROLLABLE] to elephantmen.

That would be cheating considering how easy it is to do and only humans having it.

Seems like a less cheaty thing to do than adding / removing night trolls though.  What's your goal aside from simply playable Elephant people?
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Re: Why The Fuck I Can't Play As Elephant Man?
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2021, 08:20:48 pm »

"Cheating" is an nonsensical concept in a single "player" story generator.

Or at least, changing raws is no more cheaty than torturing the world generator like you do.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2021, 08:32:36 pm by Ziusudra »
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Re: Why The Fuck I Can't Play As Elephant Man?
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2021, 09:01:06 pm »

I solved elves not surviving by adding night trolls. I think it's because elves reach high population quickly and that triggers attacks.

For some reason I can't play as them.

you're still relying on RNG to get you what you want - how many worlds did you gen up? I haven't had elephant men in my worlds for as long as I can remember, but also play on pocket worlds, where tropics are pretty rare.

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Re: Why The Fuck I Can't Play As Elephant Man?
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2021, 11:23:15 pm »

I solved elves not surviving by adding night trolls. I think it's because elves reach high population quickly and that triggers attacks.

For some reason I can't play as them.

you're still relying on RNG to get you what you want - how many worlds did you gen up? I haven't had elephant men in my worlds for as long as I can remember, but also play on pocket worlds, where tropics are pretty rare.

I create custom world with 100 rainfall and 100 drainage. Everywhere is warm due to 70 temperature but there are never any elephant men. I did this dozens of times despite a lot of high savagery areas.
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