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Author Topic: Dead Webadict Now: Game Over  (Read 62745 times)

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Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 4
« Reply #975 on: January 01, 2022, 12:30:00 am »

Haha

I guess I'll have to look in Dead Chat for the answer to that question.
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Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 4
« Reply #976 on: January 01, 2022, 01:35:21 am »

Next . . . MaximumSpin.
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Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 4
« Reply #977 on: January 01, 2022, 01:38:42 am »

Next . . . MaximumSpin.


Probably but I've had too many drinks to vote just yet.  Gonna actually read and stuff.
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Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 4
« Reply #978 on: January 01, 2022, 02:10:01 am »

Thanks... Knight...?

Probably but I've had too many drinks to vote just yet.  Gonna actually read and stuff.

Yep yep.

I will say: Fal did in fact have a groupchat, implying he also had a partner (clever lie with the serial killer thing, tho). Furthermore, there's nothing in his roleflip to suggest he could've killed Jim undetcted, as Maximum Spin suggested. That leaves Spin, again, as Jim's killer.

Jim was obvious. Guaranteed town? Easy pickings, especially with my passives. You'll notice how I claimed not taking any action that Night. Not the best excuse.

If we believe TolyK, and assuming no item/hidden-ability type shenanigans, this has to be a lie. It's a really smart lie given his position at the time, but a lie nevertheless.

The case here is pretty straightforward at this point. The only thing I'm really hesitating on is a couple of the game-related points Fal raised… it's true we still have to kill the Webadict to win, and it's true there's still a number of shenanigans going on behind-the-scenes we haven't figured out. I'm gonna have a sleep, and one last think before I vote.
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Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 4
« Reply #979 on: January 01, 2022, 06:39:28 am »

If my theory is right, I think this might be MYLO.
My theory is that Vector-Toaster were either AAW (presumably as one or the other's starting alignment - I'll give the mason chat the benefit of the doubt and say Toaster's) or Egan's convert target, and have separated so that their team has twice as many players left as before. Toaster is probably the one I'd rather lynch (if I suppose Vector was originally town, maybe this will fix it?)

ToonyMan, if you're town, give me that ability-attaching item. I can trade you my wincon-granting ability. I don't mind taking whatever bad thing you got.
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Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 4
« Reply #980 on: January 01, 2022, 07:35:23 am »

Wait... Who killed Fallacy?
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Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 4
« Reply #981 on: January 01, 2022, 07:41:36 am »

Wait... Who killed Fallacy?
Isn't it obvious? I'm pretty sure it was Knightwing, because Fallacy admitted/possibly-falsely-claimed temporarily killing him.
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Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 4
« Reply #982 on: January 01, 2022, 08:06:27 am »

Well, a lot definitely happened. Kind of glad Knightwing took the shot instead of me since I didn't actually find a traditional gun today and I want to save it for something niche. I want to look further into what Fallacy was going on about sometime soon though, even though he wasn't town I think he made a good point that winning isn't as straightforward as we might think.

A couple problems came up for me last night btw. I'll go over the biggest one: we have something called a Mechromancer in the game. They gave me a TINY ADORABLE ROBOT, which will let them possess me when I die. It doesn't seem like a conversion, they can just transform me into a Figment and control me once I'm dead. So if this comes from Anti-Anti-Webadict or Pro-Webadict, they're going to have access to my guns plus a secret ability I unlocked last cycle but haven't used yet.

If you're town, please step forward. If not, I'd prefer to have that ability-attaching item instead, Toony, so I can pass it to a scum read.
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Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 4
« Reply #983 on: January 01, 2022, 09:22:20 am »

That's possible, though it could also be a vigilante or something. Knightwing64 had day killed before, though, right?

PPE: OK, so probably not Roden.

Also, my alignment hasn't changed after being revived. Egan hoped we'd still find some way to win-all.

I'm pretty sure it can be done reasonably safely, assuming no cult shenanigans.

Alternatively, we can just vote Maximum Spin (that's not a vote), but I think it's best to try to reread this mess first (heh).
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Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 4
« Reply #984 on: January 01, 2022, 12:35:31 pm »

A couple problems came up for me last night btw. I'll go over the biggest one: we have something called a Mechromancer in the game. They gave me a TINY ADORABLE ROBOT, which will let them possess me when I die. It doesn't seem like a conversion, they can just transform me into a Figment and control me once I'm dead. So if this comes from Anti-Anti-Webadict or Pro-Webadict, they're going to have access to my guns plus a secret ability I unlocked last cycle but haven't used yet.

If you're town, please step forward. If not, I'd prefer to have that ability-attaching item instead, Toony, so I can pass it to a scum read.

I am the Mechromancer.  I also gave the robot to Jim.  Probably best to get this out of the way: I now have Jim's vote, and I'll have Roden's vote if Roden dies as well.  I actually hadn't realized I'd get the abilities of the dead.
I had no idea what the robot actually did until AFTER transferring it to Jim.  I figured it was a junk item I could give Jim that would follow through with my promise to give Jim something.
I also exist outside the game to some degree.  Note FOU's crown ability didn't steal my vote, although maybe it was because I had two votes? Also note that I didn't suffer damage from TolyK's traps, unless I also got Doctor'ed by TolyK.  I'm unsure if Roden's normal damage guns would affect me.
I am also Anti-Webadict, the town faction, as strange that that must seem.  So it is my intent to use these abilities to win as Town.

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Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 4
« Reply #985 on: January 01, 2022, 12:40:00 pm »

Ah shit, I actually have 3 votes.  I hate you mod.  I hadn't intended to take such an active role in this game, but I can't evade the Spotlight!

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Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 4
« Reply #986 on: January 01, 2022, 12:53:24 pm »

I will say: Fal did in fact have a groupchat, implying he also had a partner (clever lie with the serial killer thing, tho). Furthermore, there's nothing in his roleflip to suggest he could've killed Jim undetcted, as Maximum Spin suggested. That leaves Spin, again, as Jim's killer.
Actually, factions of one usually get a groupchat.  ToonyMan got one when he was solo mafia in Mostly Mafia 3 Round 3.  So that is not alignment-indicative.
HOWEVER, Fal also had an ability that could be used by his faction mate upon his death. 
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If you die, Players of your alignment may use Selene’s Action.
THAT is reasonably good evidence that Fal probably has a faction mate.  Or a colossal red herring.
It also doesn't necessarily say that Fal's faction mate is of the same deity.  It actually might make more sense if each faction member had a different deity's action to use.  Remember the reveal that Erebos and Helia were the same faction.

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Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 4
« Reply #987 on: January 01, 2022, 04:06:42 pm »

@Max:
If my theory is right, I think this might be MYLO.
My theory is that Vector-Toaster were either AAW (presumably as one or the other's starting alignment - I'll give the mason chat the benefit of the doubt and say Toaster's) or Egan's convert target, and have separated so that their team has twice as many players left as before. Toaster is probably the one I'd rather lynch (if I suppose Vector was originally town, maybe this will fix it?)
Vector and Toaster told me ahead of time they were going to split. I think it makes sense regardless of what alignment they are.

ToonyMan, if you're town, give me that ability-attaching item. I can trade you my wincon-granting ability. I don't mind taking whatever bad thing you got.
I don't know if I should...

Max, think about this. TolyK claims two people visited Jim on N1: you and Superdorf. Why aren't you voting Superdorf here? If you're voting Toaster is a possible Egan convert I understand that, but voting Toaster for being Anti-Anti-Webadict is incorrect.

Wait... Who killed Fallacy?
Isn't it obvious? I'm pretty sure it was Knightwing, because Fallacy admitted/possibly-falsely-claimed temporarily killing him.
Yep it was Knightwing.

@Jack:
I am the Mechromancer.
Erm, I don't like that. Jim was targeted by you on N1 as well then.

I think I believe Roden over you here Jack, what's going on here? Why did you target Roden last night and not someone like Knightwing?
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Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 4
« Reply #988 on: January 01, 2022, 04:12:12 pm »

@TolyK:
You should have seen Jack target Jim on N1.

I can confirm that Jim got their soul mechanized that same night and that it's possible these were two distinct actions (being killed, being mechanized). I'm not saying Jack killed Jim or anything, I think that's definitely between Max/Superdorf, but Jack should count as an Entity here and yet you didn't see them. This implies that Jack doesn't even count as a Player or something else is going on.
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Re: Kill Webadict Now - Day 4
« Reply #989 on: January 01, 2022, 04:27:56 pm »

Point of clarification: TolyK didn't see who visited Jim
TolyK set traps around Jim and watched who got damage.
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