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Author Topic: Dark Designs: Turn Two-Battle Phase  (Read 12486 times)

Madman198237

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Re: Dark Designs: Turn One-Design Phase
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2021, 06:00:40 pm »

Quote from: Votebox
Shaping (PICK ONE):
The Faceless Ones:
Mountain Trolls:
The Wall-Breaker, Champion: (1) Madman
Hulder:

Artifice (PICK TWO):
The Silent Hand (unit, tier 3): (1) Madman
Legio I Deeping Guard (unit, tier 2): (1) Madman
Sturm-stoker:

Magic (PICK ONE):
Cunning Disguise (I): (1) Madman
Nightmare Mutation (I or II):

Just stole Sudu's lists and made it into a votebox. Thank you, Sudu, for removing most of the effort from this and thereby aiding and abetting my tendency towards laziness :P
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Re: Dark Designs: Turn One-Design Phase
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2021, 06:44:06 pm »

I noticed that our only method of physically dealing with the walls is in shaping, so I have a couple of proposals to give us some other options.

Scaling Ladders (Artifice):
   An idea almost as old as walls themselves, we equip teams of orcs with ladders tall enough to reach the top of the walls.


Passage of Transmutation (Magic):
    The (lead) mage reaches out to touch an obstacle and it's substance is turned to smoke opening a tunnel through it up to ten feet wide.

Quote from: Votebox
Shaping (PICK ONE):
The Faceless Ones:(1) Sudorandom
Mountain Trolls:
The Wall-Breaker, Champion: (1) Madman
Hulder:

Artifice (PICK TWO):
The Silent Hand (unit, tier 3): (2) Madman, Sudorandom
Legio I Deeping Guard (unit, tier 2): (2) Madman, Sudorandom
Sturm-stoker:

Magic (PICK ONE):
Cunning Disguise (I): (1) Madman
Nightmare Mutation (I or II):
Passage of Transmutation:(1) Sudorandom
« Last Edit: November 08, 2021, 07:06:46 pm by Sudurandom »
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Madman198237

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Re: Dark Designs: Turn One-Design Phase
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2021, 06:51:28 pm »

Actually we were told we'd already have basic scaling ladders and battering rams and the like.
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Re: Dark Designs: Turn One-Design Phase
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2021, 07:05:50 pm »

Oops I missed the "not" in that post. I'll strike out the scaling ladders.
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Nirur Torir

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Re: Dark Designs: Turn One-Design Phase
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2021, 07:14:19 pm »

Is the general plan to take the fortress quickly, before heroes can reach the prison and force a game over?

We might consider either a night vision spell or night vision units, with a night assault, or a spell/unit that can quickly tunnel to breach the fortress and reinforce him.
A strike force of night vision T2-3 units will be versatile enough to be a useful tactical option in the future. Perhaps flavored as elite orcish light infantry with dark magic blessings for strength and night vision?

We could combine an illusion spell with the giant wall-breaker champion "giving orders" in the middle of a hoard. It might delay the heroes if they think they'll be needed to deal with a second giant champion, until we trip one of the Providence saves on a non-essential point of the plan.
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Madman198237

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Re: Dark Designs: Turn One-Design Phase
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2021, 07:27:13 pm »

I very much want to start with heavy infantry for the siege and then move on to lighter units once we move out into the field. The Wall-Breaker should be able to get the outer forces through the wall quite quickly (it's literally his job, after all :P ) and the forces we've got inside the stronghold ought to be able to do a lot of damage especially if the enemy's forces are already compromised by our spy network.
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Re: Dark Designs: Turn One-Design Phase
« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2021, 11:52:08 am »

Let’s aim to have votes in by the end of Wednesday. Feel free to continue to suggest designs! Even if they aren’t chosen now, you can always bring them back in the next turn.

Note, you do not need to make a design to participate in the game. Feel free to vote to what you think is the most useful choice, or the coolest.

If we need more time to discuss we can of course extend the deadline. Let me know either here or in the discord if you have any questions.

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Re: Dark Designs: Turn One-Design Phase
« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2021, 12:04:31 pm »

As the fires flare a pure red, an ordinary village girl with brown hair pops out of the flames. "Sup. Sorry I'm late, had to deal with a witch burning. The blood effect was cool, but did you have to do so in the middle of breakfast?"


Presenting the Councilor: Tim the Upstart Witch of Flames. Yes that Tim.

Firejump
A evocation which can allow one to travel through flames. Useful for getting into places one shouldn't be, or out of a burning village. Or into it if that's your preference. Just add Fire. Has an effect of being immune to fire after casting the spell. Wouldn't do for a witch to burn at the stake.

Quote from: Votebox
Shaping (PICK ONE):
The Faceless Ones:(1) Sudorandom
Mountain Trolls:
The Wall-Breaker, Champion: (2) Madman, TricMagic
Hulder:

Artifice (PICK TWO):
The Silent Hand (unit, tier 3): (3) Madman, Sudorandom, TricMagic
Legio I Deeping Guard (unit, tier 2): (3) Madman, Sudorandom, TricMagic
Sturm-stoker:

Magic (PICK ONE):
Cunning Disguise (I): (1) Madman
Nightmare Mutation (I or II):
Passage of Transmutation:(1) Sudorandom
Firejump: (1) TricMagic

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Re: Dark Designs: Turn One-Design Phase
« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2021, 04:22:50 am »

Quote from: Votebox
Shaping (PICK ONE):
The Faceless Ones:(1) Sudorandom
Mountain Trolls:
The Wall-Breaker, Champion: (3) Madman, TricMagic, King Zultan
Hulder:

Artifice (PICK TWO):
The Silent Hand (unit, tier 3): (4) Madman, Sudorandom, TricMagic, King Zultan
Legio I Deeping Guard (unit, tier 2): (4) Madman, Sudorandom, TricMagic, King Zultan
Sturm-stoker:

Magic (PICK ONE):
Cunning Disguise (I): (1) Madman
Nightmare Mutation (I or II): (1) King Zultan
Passage of Transmutation:(1) Sudorandom
Firejump: (1) TricMagic

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Re: Dark Designs: Turn One-Design Phase
« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2021, 08:39:18 am »

Quote from: Votebox
Shaping (PICK ONE):
The Faceless Ones:(1) Sudorandom
Mountain Trolls:
The Wall-Breaker, Champion: (3) Madman, TricMagic, King Zultan
Hulder:

Artifice (PICK TWO):
The Silent Hand (unit, tier 3): (4) Madman, Sudorandom, TricMagic, King Zultan
Legio I Deeping Guard (unit, tier 2): (4) Madman, Sudorandom, TricMagic, King Zultan
Sturm-stoker:

Magic (PICK ONE):
Cunning Disguise (I): (2) Madman, Rockeater
Nightmare Mutation (I or II): (1) King Zultan
Passage of Transmutation:(1) Sudorandom
Firejump: (1) TricMagic

Not to stuc to that choice, willing to change for a decent argument
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Re: Dark Designs: Turn One-Design Phase
« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2021, 08:55:46 am »

Quote from: Votebox
Shaping (PICK ONE):
The Faceless Ones:(1) Sudorandom
Mountain Trolls:
The Wall-Breaker, Champion: (3) Madman, TricMagic, King Zultan
Hulder:

Artifice (PICK TWO):
The Silent Hand (unit, tier 3): (4) Madman, Sudorandom, TricMagic, King Zultan
Legio I Deeping Guard (unit, tier 2): (4) Madman, Sudorandom, TricMagic, King Zultan
Sturm-stoker:

Magic (PICK ONE):
Cunning Disguise (I): (2) Madman, Rockeater
Nightmare Mutation (I or II): (1) King Zultan
Passage of Transmutation:(1) Sudorandom
Firejump: (1) TricMagic

Not to stuc to that choice, willing to change for a decent argument

Firejump offers a way for our forces to travel quickly from one destination to another. Just light a bonfire at both locations. There isn't actually a limit to the distance, though closer is easier.
That and select forces can just bypass any walls straight to the kitchens, this is medieval, so fire is used for cooking and warmth. An attack from without and within will crumble their ability to resist us.
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Re: Dark Designs: Turn One-Design Phase
« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2021, 10:19:12 am »


Firejump offers a way for our forces to travel quickly from one destination to another. Just light a bonfire at both locations. There isn't actually a limit to the distance, though closer is easier.
That and select forces can just bypass any walls straight to the kitchens, this is medieval, so fire is used for cooking and warmth. An attack from without and within will crumble their ability to resist us.

Note: While teleportation is not impossible, it is very difficult. Firejump would probably be a tier III or IV spell and allow only the caster to go through, and the range would be somewhat limited as well. I would say this would be a Very Hard spell, as it involves mastery of teleportation and pyromancy (which you could fairly say that this Dark Lord has an affinity for).

But just to set expectations: Mass movement of troops via teleportation? Late Game Mega-Project. Teleportation by skilled casters? Very difficult but not impossible. Easy teleportation into enemy strongholds? Well, what goes around comes around.
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Re: Dark Designs: Turn One-Design Phase
« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2021, 10:31:43 am »


Quote from: Votebox
Shaping (PICK ONE):
The Faceless Ones:(1) Sudorandom
Mountain Trolls:
The Wall-Breaker, Champion: (3) Madman, TricMagic, King Zultan
Hulder:

Artifice (PICK TWO):
The Silent Hand (unit, tier 3): (4) Madman, Sudorandom, TricMagic, King Zultan
Legio I Deeping Guard (unit, tier 2): (4) Madman, Sudorandom, TricMagic, King Zultan
Sturm-stoker:

Magic (PICK ONE):
Cunning Disguise (I): (3) Madman, Rockeater, TricMagic
Nightmare Mutation (I or II): (1) King Zultan
Passage of Transmutation:(1) Sudorandom
Firejump: ()


So same as usual, me writing stuff that is difficult. (And Tim casually performing the feat with fool's luck and not knowing that.. Which is normal for this character.)
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Re: Dark Designs: Turn One-Design Phase
« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2021, 10:47:54 am »

Quote from: Votebox
Shaping (PICK ONE):
The Faceless Ones: (1) Sudorandom
Mountain Trolls:
The Wall-Breaker, Champion: (4) Madman, TricMagic, King Zultan, Glass
Hulder:

Artifice (PICK TWO):
The Silent Hand (unit, tier 3): (5) Madman, Sudorandom, TricMagic, King Zultan, Glass
Legio I Deeping Guard (unit, tier 2): (5) Madman, Sudorandom, TricMagic, King Zultan, Glass
Sturm-stoker:

Magic (PICK ONE):
Cunning Disguise (I): (4) Madman, Rockeater, TricMagic, Glass
Nightmare Mutation (I or II): (1) King Zultan
Passage of Transmutation:(1) Sudorandom
Firejump: ()

My apologies, administrative duties have kept me from reviewing the military proposals. I consider the Mad One’s revisions to my earlier proposals to be quite satisfactory; thank you for bringing them into the realm of workability.
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Re: Dark Designs: Turn One-Design Phase
« Reply #44 on: November 11, 2021, 07:49:09 pm »

Quote from: Votebox
Shaping (PICK ONE):
The Faceless Ones: (1) Sudorandom
Mountain Trolls:
The Wall-Breaker, Champion: (5) Madman, TricMagic, King Zultan, Glass, Failbird
Hulder:

Artifice (PICK TWO):
The Silent Hand (unit, tier 3): (6) Madman, Sudorandom, TricMagic, King Zultan, Glass, Failbird
Legio I Deeping Guard (unit, tier 2): (6) Madman, Sudorandom, TricMagic, King Zultan, Glass, Failbird
Sturm-stoker:

Magic (PICK ONE):
Cunning Disguise (I): (5) Madman, Rockeater, TricMagic, Glass, Failbird
Nightmare Mutation (I or II): (1) King Zultan
Passage of Transmutation:(1) Sudorandom
Firejump: ()
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