Nah I'm a bit irritated and malding over the fact that elves are treated as below second class citizens, a possibility was to see if the moon elves were open to diplomacy before we went to go on and just raid them instead of a tournament or feast, now I'm sure any peaceful interaction between us and them is impossible.
Not necessarily, but if so it was true a long time before we were born. Remember, the Mahallo said the elves are really,
really slow to adapt to new circumstances, so if we can't be diplomatic with them it'll be for very, very old reasons.
That said, the humans probably get more out of raiding them than they would out of peace, so we likely have no motive to do so.
I mean I would want to know why Imperials and the Mahello raiders see the Elfs as pure heretical existing beings that exist against the dogma just for breathing?, like what have they done that has made them trigger their ire, from the Mahello side it seem that the Elves were in these lands first because of their extended lifespans and it seems like their haughtiness is what pissed off the Mahello people, or the Mahello people just wanted a claim of land and that mean that a conflict between them was always going to happen?, the reason I'm saying all of this, is there any reason based on morality on why the Moon Elves are considered evil except the fact that we are on a Dwarf Fortress forum?
Mahallo reasons for hating the elves likely include:
1. The elves have stuff
That might not be all, but that's definitely enough. The Mahallo are bloodthirsty raiders who kill people and take their stuff. Prior to their homeland exploding, they were famed for their ability and tendency to do that to literally everyone. They don't need some kind of deep philosophical underpinning to routinely kill the elves and take their stuff.
We saw a bunch of tolerated elves in the nameless city with their three eyes, so they seem capable of being civil and aren’t like cannibals. I imagine there has to be some underlying reason why Elves are considered vile for differing groups of people to consider them heretical to existence
That was a single named example who was probably an illusion and tried to get us to torture Andre to death. We don't know
anything about how civil or diplomatic (or cannibalistic) they are as a faction/civilization, other than the aforementioned Mahallo wisdom that they do everything at a glacial pace.
We also have (potentially suspect) information that 1/8th elf blood, raised under full human culture, is the absolute limit for being a functional member of human society. This would imply that elves are
severely alien beings who do not play nicely with humans even under ideal circumstances.
a long-term goal that can be a possibility is to make the Imperial religion more pluralist of different kinds of worship and utilizing Marion’s prophecy to put this in motion, and it seems a goal we should pursue since two of our sycophants are Dragon worshippers as well as our Spymaster.
I recall that being advanced as a factor in the general consensus to choose Marion, and likely a factor in the current vote to accept a Dragon priest's fealty as well as participating in Dragon rituals. We will be reformers or heretics, depending, and it will be interesting to see how much longer we can keep the crusader faction's favor while doing all this heretical stuff.
I am in favor of trying to massage things away from standard Imperial doctrine, but would like to reiterate that pissing off the clergy is a Big Deal. This isn't about some nerd in a robe, it's the fundamental belief system and major political power across most of the known world.
That said, the fact that most of the known world just told the combined might of the faithful to fuck right off might help with that. Our brothers are likely none too pleased with things as they stand, so the lot of us together could potentially work towards some kind of major (if unpopular) reforms.