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[Quantum Drop]

Having previously thrown a number of Goblin captives off the top of my fortress, I noted there appear to be several stacks of [Goblin's name] bones in one of my refuse piles. However, when I specify goblin bone crafts to be made at the Craftsdwarf's workshop, it comes up with an error reading '[Dwarf] cancels Make goblin bone crafts: Needs unrotten body parts' despite the bones being unforbidden and accessible.

Is there any way around this, or should I just toss the lot of them in the magma moat?

[PlumpHelmetMan]

I'm pretty sure dwarves can't make crafts from the parts of sapient beings unless they're in a fell mood, maybe modding their ethics so that sapient trophies are acceptable would do the trick?

[Moeteru]

Changing Dwarves' ethics might work, but I wouldn't count on it. It may well be unimplemented and/or broken.

I believe there may be a way to clear the sapient flag from their bones by first raising their corpses as undead before finally dismembering them. I think I remember seeing my dwarves use undead sapient bones in the past, but those were zombies which came as part of a necromancer siege. I don't know if it will work for goblins who enter the map as normal living sapients.

[FantasticDorf]

Toady fudged the ethics code, those bones would still be useless (extends to all other anatomical parts, ei see fur below)

A more straightforward explanation is that you can play hot-potato with the dead_dwarf=true/false boolean in dfhack gui-editor to move creatures between the corpse & refuse stockpile, anything that fits the corpse stockpile (including taking troll fur there, along with the troll and any other split off body parts and limbs) for citizen is off limits, while switching it the other way will make it move to the refuse pile.

• It is possible to slaughter a semi-intelligent 'illegally' by forcing a slaughtering job, yielding unusable quantities of materials. Turning dead_dwarf=true off is a lot easier on a intact corpse rather than interacting with 20+ some odd bodyparts and teeth being knocked out etc.

If you had much intent on using them, you'd need to run a dfhack script that presides over automatically setting the dead_dwarf=true flag to false as a boolean, which the recommended script does on point of death. Soon as that goblin hits the ground and goes splat, straight into the refuse pile and any connected/nearby butchery shops, same for pet animals, which are normally given civilian burials.

[Kat]

I don't remember if ethics play a role or not.

There is a DFHack script available, that allows butchering of sapients, and automatically sets the "dead_dwarf" flag appropriately. I use the script myself, for my drow fortress.

The civics of my drows allows for butchering sapients, I am unsure if the dwarf ethics would allow it, even when running the script.

This is the script: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=165414.0

[FantasticDorf]

~snip~

This is the script: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=165414.0

Yeah that's the exact script im thinking of and describing, its very well done.

[PatrikLundell]

Body parts of sapients ceased to be usable for crafting when the corpse stockpile changed from being dwarf only to be used for all sapients (0.42?). As mentioned, zombiefied sapients end up as refuse and thus are brought to the refuse stockpile (and there's a bug where you can't bury killed, revived, and rekilled citizens because they'll immediately be removed from their coffins). "Naturally" butchered body parts of zombiefied sapients can thus be used for crafting (severed limbs decay into piles of bones, trolls produce tusks, etc.).
It can also be noted that you can have your refuse stockpile next to the trade depot and have it filled with remains of zombiefied sapients without the traders batting an eye.

I believe fell mode remains unchanged, but I've never seen one.

[Thisfox]

I believe fell mode remains unchanged, but I've never seen one.

I applaud your excellent treatment of your dwarves!