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[Caz]

Or is there a more valuable way of looking at people?

yeah. people are just people, the same as you. reducing them to a single idea is very stupid. you got many different things going on, right? so does everyone else.

[Vector]

there is no organism on the planet less like a sheep than a human being

My point may not have been adequately made

Goldfish are more like a sheep than a muman being is

Trees are more like a sheep than a human being is

Archaebacteria are more like a sheep than a human being is

yes

[MrRoboto75]

humans are like 60% banana DNA tho.

[Caz]

bananas never did anyone any harm. except people allergic to bananas. does that exist? they are tasty.

[None]

it's me, the anyone bananas did harm to

or, well, they did itchy to

fruits are intimidating

[Caz]

it's me, the anyone bananas did harm to

or, well, they did itchy to

fruits are intimidating

[Frumple]

They've been trying since like 2018 to remove/move the banana tree outside our house. It's been chopped down to the ground like four times, dug up at least twice (once by a cat 5 hurricane!), things have been tried to remove that banana tree.

It hasn't worked.

None of it worked.

Not only is the banana tree back to its pre-hurricane height, it's expanded its domain and is now mostly covering up a second window.

...

... there's no harm there, it's a nice tree. Just wanted to share the banana tree story.

[Caz]

why try to destroy the banana plant though?

[wierd]

Because despite what australian childrens television says, bananas do not make good neighbors.

[Bumber]

I don't want to just state the obvious, but there is no organism on the planet less like a sheep than a human being.

Scorpions?

[wierd]

Sea cucumber, with stolen chloroplasts?

[Frumple]

why try to destroy the banana plant though?

At the time they started trying, basically the whole thing had been ripped sideways by a cat 5 hurricane. They thought it was destroyed, and were trying to clear debris. After that, it was just attempting to finish the job or whatever, plus needing to get it out the way to get at other stuff and some issues with it coming back up kinda' funny the first couple of attempts at regrowing.

They've basically given up at this point, though. Banana tree won, gg no re.

[WealthyRadish]

I don't want to just state the obvious, but there is no organism on the planet less like a sheep than a human being.

Scorpions?

I guess it wasn't obvious. When he says "sheep", he means "something that doesn't think for itself". Humans very obviously "think for themselves" to a greater extent than a goldfish, tree, bacterium, scorpion, dolphin, octopus, New Caledonian crow, etc etc so asking "Are people sheep?" to me suggests a response that humans are the least "sheep" thing around. Maybe not un-sheep enough for someone's liking, but certainly the least-sheep. That's it.

[Bumber]

I guess it wasn't obvious. When he says "sheep", he means "something that doesn't think for itself". Humans very obviously "think for themselves" to a greater extent than a goldfish, tree, bacterium, scorpion, dolphin, octopus, New Caledonian crow, etc etc so asking "Are people sheep?" to me suggests a response that humans are the least "sheep" thing around. Maybe not un-sheep enough for someone's liking, but certainly the least-sheep. That's it.

Sheep are more human than trees are sheep, though.

(Also, scorpions are asocial, so they don't groupthink.)

[WealthyRadish]

Sheep are more human than trees are sheep, though.

When he says "sheep", he means "something that doesn't think for itself".

(Also, scorpions are asocial, so they don't groupthink.)

The scorpion, bacterium, tree, etc get their behavior very directly from genetics, not from their capacity for whatever physical processes we associate with the basic ability to "think for one's self". A spider doesn't learn how to build an intricate web by observing reality and never thinks about how it could build webs differently, it rather acquires that ability genetically from other spiders (its ancestors) in the most rigid and unthinking way possible. That's about as sheep as it gets, sheeper than literal sheep.