This is going to be one of those weird games. Anyway, I'm a miller.
I believe this claim. My role is useless, I'm an Unreliable Cop.
I believe NJW's claim.
@Roden: What is an Unreliable Cop?
I am a Neighborizer. I can set up a private chat with other players. Sorta like unreliable mason I guess?
Unreliable just means my results have a chance to be wrong. Not invalid, just wrong, and I have no way of knowing if my Cop check is accurate. Since my results don't really matter, I figured I would just full claim now since it would look suspicious if I claimed it later.
If I had that role, I would simply not use it. Particularly if there is a motion detector in the game capable of checking you. Alternatively, I'd test Toaster's claim.
Have you really never seen a neighbor / neighborizer role webadict? Seems difficult to believe. I feel like you're trying to play dumb with regard to your knowledge of Euchre's role.
Okay, let's expound on that. What would I gain by playing dumb?
If Euchre is mafia, or if you somehow know his role already, this is a way to distance yourself from that.
That's a very short-sighted goal if I'm Mafia, and also that would imply that I'd be really bad as Mafia. The better answer is that I can use that as a way to see who's okay with claiming their alignment with someone else, but that only applies if you think I'm Town. So, that's not the worst look for you, but it does make it seem as though you don't care about looking for Town, especially since EuchreJack is more like Town than not.
I'm having trouble parsing this. Are you saying that you do know what a neighborizer is, and are just testing the waters to see who'd volunteer to be neighborized? I don't see how that'd really gain you anything useful, as town.
@Max and Magma:
I am town, and my role is useful, and I am not claiming.
EuchreJack, please subscribe me to your mailing list. I do not have a private chat and I want one.
At least throw a fakeclaim out.
I, on the other hand, will claim my 100% real role as Ninja Fruit Vendor.
There's certain roles I could see Max not wanting to share, but also there's certain roles I could see Max not wanting to share if that makes sense. Sometimes you want to paint a target on your back at night...a fakeclaim would avoid the attention all together, why would Max not choose to do that instead? I think this makes Max look good.
Mm, I agree that it makes him look good, although my reasoning is a little different. I like that he openly stated his intent to not claim early on, as opposed to ignoring the massclaim or postponing his response until more people had weighed in.
This is going to be one of those weird games. Anyway, I'm a miller.
Interesting. I am a... Null Miller, I guess? Investigations on me simply don't work; you get a null result. I think that extends past simple cop results.
You guess? Your role name should be pretty clear. This wording is suspicious, specifically because if you're mafia then I believe your real role name would be
Null Godfather.
Webadict:
@Toaster: I don't really buy there being two Millers in a game, why should I believe you?
Honestly? Don't much care if you do. I policy-claim Miller in the first post of any game I am one in, and this is... close enough to miller. The word "miller" isn't involved in the role and I'm not sure Miller is even the right way to describe it; probably not. In any case, investigative role actions on me are going to be wasted.
Don't you think free day passes are a bit much to hand out at the beginning of a nine player game? Sure, if there were 15 I can greatly appreciate wanting to pare down the choices, but it's not THAT many right now.
In that case, which word
is involved in the role?
@Toony & @Jim: I think that NJW is rescinding his miller claim and is instead saying that he has a different role that he'd prefer not to claim at the moment.
Neighborizer sounds like at least one of them tells the other their alignment.
Anyway, I'm gonna vote Magma Mater.
Have you really never seen a neighbor / neighborizer role webadict? Seems difficult to believe. I feel like you're trying to play dumb with regard to your knowledge of Euchre's role.
I am also going to vote for Magma Mater as if I had to make a snap judgment based on less than three full pages of game this is the most suspicious interaction I've seen so far.
Whether webadict has or has not seen a neighbor/neighborizer role before is a weird thing to get contentious about.
Why is that a weird thing to get contentious about?
To fully explain, the reasons web's "neighbor" post pings me is this:
- It's an inaccurate statement. If he's town and doesn't know what a neighborizer is, why not ask a question instead?
- It looks like it was posted for the sake of being posted. Town doesn't have much to gain by posting that as a statement, if he believes it to be true (nobody asked what a neighborizer is). On the other hand, scum-web might want to look ignorant about Euchre's role for distancing reasons.
- webadict is an experienced player, and neighborizer really is a common role. Obviously, this is speculation on my part, and is probably unfair to webadict, but it is something that I thought about and I'd be lying if I said it's not affecting my read on him.
I got caught out pretty badly from claiming double voter first in a past game as mafia since I had no idea there would be another claim to "meta counter" it.
Do you think that Roden would consider this?
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