Am exhausted, sorry folks. I forgot that this was starting this evening.
Don't like Roden's call for a massclaim, and think that doing this with the bulletproof claim is scum-sided but perhaps NaI for Roden. Also feel ambiguous about Metruption's jumping on it + claim. Leaning Metruption scum.
@Toony: As usual I struggle to read Tric. Null.
@EuchreJack: If the vote on me is so obvious, why softpedal it with "regret?" FoS.
Vector: how suspiscious are you of Day 1 rolefishing? As in, where do you place it on the spectrum from "Highly Reliable Scumtell" to "Not Indicative of Alignment"?
At this point I see scum rolefish successfully so infrequently, and have seen games die so explosively from Town being unforgiving, that I consider it more concerning when the bulk of conversation focuses around the rolefishing/massclaiming invitation. So: D1 rolefish NaI without other evidence, directed bandwagon to rolefisher fairly reliable scumtell.
I'll vote Vector, is Tric worth killing N1?
If I had a fairly good sense that this would mean that a. we wouldn't have to LYLO with Tric and b. it was unlikely to end the game D1: yes. No LuckyOwl means that Tric has become prime PoE real estate.
This is a good post, NJW town equity ++.
For your second point, what scum suggests to mass claim and then claims BP?
WIFOM... I don't like the points about "not wasting the town vig's time" either. Just doesn't smell right.
Hm, but we don't know the setup. I think the mass claim strategy only works when we have at least some hint to the setup.
Not voting Roden because Town Roden seems to like the mass claim. Hell, I'm not even suspicious, I just think its bad strategy.
This seems specious. Overexplaining. What does Town Roden seems to like the mass claim mean
Jack is referring to the "Newbie" game where town!Roden wanted the one-shot BP to claim if they existed since there's a meta way to play in that open setup. It's a bit different here but I understand their view.
Thank you for the clarification.
Metruption post:
My current best guess at scum would be TricMagic, that slot has a bunch of weird interactions.
Literally their very next post:
And here, they scumlean me for no reason.
I'm seeing Vector cast a rather wide net of shade with few townreads and this creates a situation where scum!Vector can just hop on a lot of wagons easily. There's another scumtell I see Vector going for that I've struggled with in the past. I'll call it out if I see more of it.
Vote Vector for Elimination
Nice wheelaround OMGUS kid but I'm more likely to hit both members of the scumteam if I provide broad pressure within the first 24 hours. The difference between scumtell and dumbtell is how high the sucker jumps. . . . scumbucket.
That's fair I guess, but it sounds like you already assume I'm scum.
Dude, I don't know if you and Metruption have the world's shittiest mindmeld or what, but "OMG scumhunting sus" is not the revelation you think it is.
Day 1 posts.
Logic Chess Begin!First Post. This one involves Jack, Meta, and Roden.
drinks teaFirst is the call for massclaims and his thoughts. Vector conclude Roden is currently NaI, I assume this means Not any Info. This actually conflicts somewhat with Vector investigating Roden, as a bulletproof is an infoless role. Another investigative target could have been picked, for example.
Vector:@Toony: As usual I struggle to read Tric. Null.
Myself. As he stated, he had no info on me at all. Confirming my role would have resulted in him being known not to have done the kill, as well as rendering today an open and shut case for him. his ability to ferret out the truth would have given us a likely victory, with only two suspects. Of course, I could have been killed before then,
but the same skip day would apply if Vector was town and didn't do the kill. When no-one died, it could have pushed Vector out of suspicion.
So another target. Jack, someone who has always been a bit of a wildcard. Unlikely to be killed as well. And someone you fingered with suspicion. Of course, we now know Jack wasn't working alone, and shut up very quickly with the self-vote. But investigating him would give you town-cred when he flipped. Instead he died without anything from you but saying you'd be fine with voting Jack.
Notable is the fact that as the end of day 1 approached, his posts became more suspicious. Which is what ended with me pegging him as Mafia during day 2.
Second Post.
drinks tea"Not Indicative of Alignment"? .. Well, point stands that wanting info is not indicative. But.. Directed Bandwagon to rolefisher is a reliable scumtell? Meta approved, I approved and revealed, and Meta ended up dead by your and Jack's votes. Mostly due to falseclaiming, but you were the first vote, and kept it there for the whole day. And you certainly could have pushed harder on Jack day 2. His claim felt scripted by someone else, which I thought weird at the time, but passed off as Jack's idea.
Post 3, 4, and 5.Post 3 is setup. Big time. And right now you're hoping to cash in these chips. But without a case of logic, it's meaningless.
Post 4, Setup. Buddying NJW, and setting Roden up when Meta falls. But it didn't fall that way. With Meta's claim not being opposed to Roden's, I moved to Jack, as did others? Right now, he's the strongest, a 1-shot Bulletproof by your own admission. In a game where only mafia kills, that's as good as town that you can get. And in a game with a 1-shot cop and doctor, being a Rolecop is one of the worst claims one can make as mafia. As it's true, and you checked Roden's claim.
Post five, poking Jack.
@Met: Do you know how or why you became a Commuter?
It was just in my role PM, not sure what you mean.
Essentially, what is your flavor for why/how you're a Commuter? This is a themed game, sort of, so we should all have a flavor wrt our role.
This is a good post, NJW town equity ++.
For your second point, what scum suggests to mass claim and then claims BP?
WIFOM... I don't like the points about "not wasting the town vig's time" either. Just doesn't smell right.
That's fair I guess, but it sounds like you already assume I'm scum.
This shortly after, you already assume him to be scum, which is a point for checking him. Why though? Why think that yet vote for Meta?
Post 6. Jack hasn't answered,
yet no poke!I wish I had time to keep up with all of this. And with our deadline being in 13 hours, gotta keep things moving.
Hopefully I'll have time to work on this more thoroughly with at least a few hours before the deadline.
Keeping vote on Vector for now. The most recent post was good, but some of the previous ones sound like gibberish.
And the phone is ringing, sigh. Later folks.
A very clear case of distancing, till Jack made the turnaround and killed Meta. Jack has consistently avoided suspecting you day 1.
Nice wheelaround OMGUS kid but I'm more likely to hit both members of the scumteam if I provide broad pressure within the first 24 hours. The difference between scumtell and dumbtell is how high the sucker jumps. . . . scumbucket.
Not OMGUS. This post is an incoherent salad of buzzwords.
Put simply, the evidence mounts against you. Looking at NJW, they've been consistently cool and collected this entire game. To the point I wonder what they are hiding. But as it stands, that just seems to be how they've been playing. I can call this, Case Closed. Though looking at day 2 won't help you either.
Also, this. Just this. A better argument would be that you were the rolecop. Which in light of your own claim is very suspisous.
I wasn't going to out myself out without any results and draw the NK. Silly goose.
(Nice OMGUS).
Vector, I would have suspected a case, not a joke while I was making my case against you. Show some Evidence.
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