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[EuchreJack]

@Hedgerow:
There's two groups of players that can narrow down the setup on D1.

1. The town PRs, whether there's one or two they can't talk in private
2. The mafia, who can talk in private

Your argument against Roden, from what I can understand, is that they have additional info that vanilla townies wouldn't have. Is this a line worth pursuing solely? You're completely devoted to mechanics and analyzing the setup instead of just scumhunting.

How do you feel about the players? Who's scum for reasons other than possibly having additional knowledge?

EuchreJack is scum for just giving it to Roden over and over again; that much is clear.
Everyone else seems about normal.  Can't really complain.  Just a regular townie doing regular townie things.
Roden would give the advantage to the mafia though.  There's no good reason to put the BP out there and he was sure enough to pin him or his partner as a role.

Hm, what do you think of this?
UNVOTE

[EuchreJack]

EXTENSION, although I already voted for it several times.

[TricMagic]

I only saw your red one, which points it out. Expect an updated votelist soon.

Day extended to Wednesday.

[EuchreJack]

I'm not here to publicly identify whether a player is a PR or not. Why make mafia's job easier?

Good enough for me.

Probably the only reason I'm not voting Hedgerow.  The hunt for PR is generally a scumtell, since it helps Mafia more than Town on Day 1.  But a new town player can fall into that trap.  This exchange shows it to be more likely that Hedgerow is new rather than scum.

Question for the audience: Who else do you think were looking for PRs?  Scum or New?

[EuchreJack]

I only saw your red one, which points it out. Expect an updated votelist soon.

Day extended to Wednesday.

Thanks!  Yeah, I put it in Red for that reason.

[EuchreJack]

I only saw your red one, which points it out. Expect an updated votelist soon.

Day extended to Wednesday.

My apologies to everyone, looks like I only made the one red vote and the later bold vote.  I just thought I had voted it more times.  Sorry about that.
Not helping myself by shooting my mouth off without doublechecking.

[TricMagic]

Fun fact, Magma's vote extension was just a bit late. Not that it matters much given five players spoke for an extension and me just getting back.
(Outside of extensions that won't be the case though. Good Luck.)

Last of the First Day Votecount, 9:56 AM

() BluarianKnight
(2) EuchreJack- hedgrow, prefuzek,
(0) prefuzek -
() Magma Mater
(0) webadictFallacyofUrist -
(2) hedgerow- BluarianKnight, Roden
(0) Roden-
(1) Rolan7- Toonyman
(1) ToonyMan[Veteran Player]- Magma Mater

3 not voting. 5 to lynch.

Day ends on Wednesday 9:40 AM Central Time

If I remember correctly, ties result in no lynch normally.

[EuchreJack]

@Roden:
Are you related to Rolan7?

No. I have no idea who that is.

Yo, nice to meet you, they/them.  My name's from Marathon: The paladin who wielded Durandal but with a seven.

@Rolan7: Please clear yourself as Town, I don't want to hunt you.  Hm, what was your favorite game of mafia on these forums? If you were not a participant, what was your favorite game of mafia in which you participated on these forums?

I only played in like 3 (I think, apparently it was over TEN YEARS AGO O_o).  The one that stuck with me the most was Beginner Mafia 8, (IC here since the original link no longer works!) which ran almost a month because someone had to drop and wasn't replaced for a while.  That lead to a very stressful period of time where no progress could really be made.  Also, apparently I was too eager to buddy with people which sounds about right.

I was town there and I don't remember ever not being town.  Probably for the best since I'd rather not have the particular pressure of being scum.  I'll try to do my best anyway, of course!

I guess I can answer the questionaire too for completeness sake:

Let's throw some questions out, because why not:

1. How much mafia experience would you say that you have?
2. Do you consider yourself good at the game?
3. What's your preference, town or wolf?
4. How would you describe your playstyle?

1. Like three games and a couple of quickies on IRC, but literally over a decade ago
2. I seemed to do pretty well, but I think that was down to beginner luck and being obnoxiously nice.  Now, probably not.
3. Town since it's less pressure and I have more experience with it
4. TBD I suppose
I don't have an opinion on whether the bulletproof townie should claim, yet.

Rolan7, who do you think is scum?

@TricMagic: Could you send a warning to Rolan7 to post?  They only posted once in the entire game...

[hedgerow]

Fun fact, Magma's vote extension was just a bit late. Not that it matters much given five players spoke for an extension and me just getting back.
(Outside of extensions that won't be the case though. Good Luck.)

Last of the First Day Votecount, 9:56 AM

() BluarianKnight
(2) EuchreJack- hedgrow, prefuzek,
(0) prefuzek -
() Magma Mater
(0) webadictFallacyofUrist -
(2) hedgerow- BluarianKnight, Roden
(0) Roden-
(1) Rolan7- Toonyman
(1) ToonyMan[Veteran Player]- Magma Mater

3 not voting. 5 to lynch.

Day ends on Wednesday 9:40 AM Central Time

If I remember correctly, ties result in no lynch normally.

Well I have to change my vote to EuchreJack to survive.  Thanks for reminding me.

That should be 2 and 2, assuming he revoked his vote.  The dangers of the mob.

[EuchreJack]

@Prefuzek: Please answer my below question.

EuchreJack

@Prefuzek: Is it possible that neither Hedgerow nor myself are scum?

Yes. Why are you asking me these questions?

To answer your question, I'm scum-hunting you.
If neither Hedgerow nor myself are scum (as you admit is possible), then who is scum?

[EuchreJack]

Fun fact, Magma's vote extension was just a bit late. Not that it matters much given five players spoke for an extension and me just getting back.
(Outside of extensions that won't be the case though. Good Luck.)

Last of the First Day Votecount, 9:56 AM

() BluarianKnight
(2) EuchreJack- hedgrow, prefuzek,
(0) prefuzek -
() Magma Mater
(0) webadictFallacyofUrist -
(2) hedgerow- BluarianKnight, Roden
(0) Roden-
(1) Rolan7- Toonyman
(1) ToonyMan[Veteran Player]- Magma Mater

3 not voting. 5 to lynch.

Day ends on Wednesday 9:40 AM Central Time

If I remember correctly, ties result in no lynch normally.

Well I have to change my vote to EuchreJack to survive.  Thanks for reminding me.

That should be 2 and 2, assuming he revoked his vote.  The dangers of the mob.

OMGUS

Vote EuchreJack

Somebody else explain this, please?  Haven't I posted enough already?

[hedgerow]

Fun fact, Magma's vote extension was just a bit late. Not that it matters much given five players spoke for an extension and me just getting back.
(Outside of extensions that won't be the case though. Good Luck.)

Last of the First Day Votecount, 9:56 AM

() BluarianKnight
(2) EuchreJack- hedgrow, prefuzek,
(0) prefuzek -
() Magma Mater
(0) webadictFallacyofUrist -
(2) hedgerow- BluarianKnight, Roden
(0) Roden-
(1) Rolan7- Toonyman
(1) ToonyMan[Veteran Player]- Magma Mater

3 not voting. 5 to lynch.

Day ends on Wednesday 9:40 AM Central Time

If I remember correctly, ties result in no lynch normally.

Well I have to change my vote to EuchreJack to survive.  Thanks for reminding me.

That should be 2 and 2, assuming he revoked his vote.  The dangers of the mob.

OMGUS

Vote EuchreJack

Somebody else explain this, please?  Haven't I posted enough already?

The only hunches I have are Roden and Toony, because of the BP thing.  You posted that PR hunting is for mafia, but no one here has done that except them.  I don't think they're gonna get lynched. 

[EuchreJack]

Oh Great and Powerful Veteran Player Toonyman, please guide our newbie Hedgerow in their scumhunting journey.  Instruct them in the Ways of Towniness, lest they continue to run foul of Newbie Mistakes.  Explain to them The Importance of the Lynch, The Need to Hunt Scum, and that Town Wins even if Townie Dies, Scum Loses if Scum Die.  Almighty Veteran Player Toonyman, I beseech your gentle guidance for our brother/sister Hedgerow, whom seems willling but lacking in experience. Amen

[EuchreJack]

@Blue: Why are you still voting Hedgerow? Can't you see all of their colossal mistakes are just newbie errors and not scumtells?  Let the poor fellow off the hook, will you?

[hedgerow]

EuchreJack.

I'd say the BP is irrelevant.  The hackers are going to win you over with flirtatious misinformation and forked reasoning.  We should eliminate anyone who buys into the townie-killing narrative, first.

Your first post is a vote against Euchre, why?

As well, your narrative of 'eliminate anyone who buys into townie-killing narrative' is.. first off, confusing - I'm maybe misreading but I don't know what that means, but second, it's aggressive. It feels like you want to put someone on the chopping block for any reason you can muster.

Newbie town can hunt, but full-out 'vote whoever' is a mafia tell, at least for me. I'm willing to remove my vote if you prove me wrong, and give me a reason/explanation.

The one about the shirts didn't cut it?