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Author Topic: Who are the Gnosia? Game Over - Crew Win!  (Read 20161 times)

TricMagic

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Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« Reply #225 on: May 04, 2021, 12:14:00 pm »

Unvote.

Vector, why a blue vote instead of a red vote if you're okay with freezing toony?
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Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« Reply #226 on: May 04, 2021, 12:19:45 pm »

Caz is never town here, but they're very likely ACF which is not great.

I'm currently debating whether to go with 80% Gnosia / 20% town BK or 80% ACF / 20% Gnosia Caz.
There is a chance on Jim being the remaining Gnosia if BK isn't lying, but I think Jim probably would've bussed Vector.

Unvote.

Vector, why a blue vote instead of a red vote if you're okay with freezing toony?
Because they were voting me at that point. They voted me and said I was AC F, then Caz CCed me and Vector acted like they believed Caz.
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Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« Reply #227 on: May 04, 2021, 12:27:38 pm »

Regardless, I think
EuchreJack 100% Town
ToonyMan probably Town, since they avoided trying to prove I'm Engineer to keep me alive, but understood I was Engineer. They are scarily passive, but seems to have Town intent. Hiding a lot of knowledge for seemingly good reasons.
TricMagic is probably Town for being insane. Legit insane.
NQT probably Town for being kinda mild. Not super active, but not super scummy.
Jim is null for being wrong and protecting Vector. I'd push them harder but they're literally a just in case scenario to me.
BK is... I don't know??
Caz is scum, likely ACF.
Vector is omegascum, likely Gnosia.
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Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« Reply #228 on: May 04, 2021, 12:35:50 pm »

Blu, if you want me to unvote you, you have to prove who the last Gnosia is.
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« Reply #229 on: May 04, 2021, 01:49:51 pm »

Possibilities for coldsleeping Blu:

1. Blu is telling the truth - we coldsleep Blu and scum believe the claim and NK Jack - BAD TOWN PLAY
2. Blu is lying but town - we coldsleep Blu and scum believe the claim and try to NK Jack and fail - GOOD TOWN PLAY
3. Blu isn't believed by scum, is coldsleeped and they NK someone random - MEDIOCRE TOWN PLAY
4. Blu is lying and scum - we coldsleep Blu and scum kill someone else because they know the real GA is alive still - BAD SCUM PLAY

Possibilities for not coldsleeping Blu:

1. Blu is telling the truth and scum believe it - Blu is NK'd and no one is protected in future nights - BAD TOWN PLAY
2. Blu is lying but scum think he's the GA - Blu is NK'd, GA protects coroner on future nights - GOOD TOWN PLAY
3. Blu is scum and trying to avoid being coldsleeped, isn't NK'd and so is immediately on the block on the subsequent night, the real GA can counterclaim by lylo - MEDIOCRE SCUM PLAY

The only way Blu is town and and good player is if they're fakeclaiming. There's no way this is a good scum ploy, at best its reactive mediocre play. I believe Blu is a good player (or, at least, not a terrible one), so... Caz

Assumption: If Blue is Gnosia, they should be cold sleeped.  Therefore, disregard all "Blue is scum" results.
@NQT: You forgot the "Blue is not coldsleeped, and Gnosia do not believe Blue to be the GA".  You also have been mostly absent from the discussion.

Sounds like a wash, so my vote remains on Good Night Blue.

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« Reply #230 on: May 04, 2021, 02:11:40 pm »

Caz is never town here, but they're very likely ACF which is not great.

I'm currently debating whether to go with 80% Gnosia / 20% town BK or 80% ACF / 20% Gnosia Caz.

You know that is a no brainer, right? If you cold sleep BK, then there is an 80% chance if my finding Gnosia infection, whereas with Caz there is a 20% chance of finding Gnosia infection.

There is the minor issue of Blue threatening that I might not be around tomorrow if we cold sleep them.  I'm inclined to ignore it, as per their insane troll logic, I either have to believe Blue is not Gnosia and unvote them, this bolstering their GA claim, OR I die.  That is soo scummy, I just can't swallow it.

What about the following scenario:
Blue is town or scum and sees they're going to die, decides to claim GA, then we cold sleep them: Gnosia MUST NK Jack to confirm GA is dead, or they know the GA is still alive and kill someone else.  Jack is alive tomorrow, proving that the GA is still alive.  So it's either a good Town Play or a desperate Gnosia play.  And best of all, unlike the "don't coldsleep Blue", everyone will know which it is tomorrow under that scenario. And if I'm dead, Blue was probably right and cost Town the game.  Which, frankly, is reason enough to coldsleep Blue...
Coldsleep Blue, and everything will be revealed.
Coldsleep Caz, and learn nothing.

Still a no brainer in my books.

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Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« Reply #231 on: May 04, 2021, 02:27:43 pm »

If Jack's in, I'm in.

I'm investigating tonight, and I'm basically proven, so one of us is making it to tomorrow.
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« Reply #232 on: May 04, 2021, 02:37:07 pm »

How much time is left?

Re: Caz lynch: I'm okay with it since it gets somebody anti town away from lylo.

webadict: if you're so certain Vector is Gnosia why not just lynch them? Who cares about the engineer claim.

I'm okay with a bk lynch but if you want to GET STUPID and off Vector I am game. Vector is basically lurking.
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Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« Reply #233 on: May 04, 2021, 02:40:53 pm »

Blu, if you want me to unvote you, you have to prove who the last Gnosia is.

Prove? I can't prove shit.

The best bet to me right now is a Tric/Vector, or a ?/Vector play.

Caz is AC to my guess -I don't think he'd be this bad with scumchat.
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Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« Reply #234 on: May 04, 2021, 02:51:24 pm »

Jim, I really, really want to, but I really do think it's Vector/BK with Caz ACF.
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« Reply #235 on: May 04, 2021, 03:09:47 pm »

Vote Vector out then. I don't like it, but the result will still end up with you two confirmed Gnosia or Human.
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« Reply #236 on: May 04, 2021, 03:19:42 pm »

True... Alright, protect Jack.

If not enough people swap, I'm headed back to BK.

Vector.
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« Reply #237 on: May 04, 2021, 03:32:22 pm »

I'll vote Vector if Blu does.

Gnosia can't bus their partner or it's certain loss for them.
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Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« Reply #238 on: May 04, 2021, 03:50:05 pm »

Votecount:
BluarianKnight: ToonyMan, EuchreJack, caz, Jim Groovester (4)
caz: notquitethere, BluarianKnight (2)
Vector: TricMagic, webadict (2)
ToonyMan: Vector (1)

Day one will end 11pm GMT, Tuesday 4th May if the vote is not tied (in about 2 hours from now).
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Jim Groovester

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Re: Who are the Gnosia? Day One - 9/9 Alive
« Reply #239 on: May 04, 2021, 04:17:52 pm »

Everybody

Get started

Get stupid

Vector

That's a tie 3 to 3. I'll try to keep my eyes on the thread and break the tie if I'm around and able.
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