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[BluarianKnight]

I'll state this - Toony's not the fucking Guardian Angel. Besides that, we've had far too many 'suspicious' folks to set down a true scum team.

This is to prove I've laid my claim in advance - the only way I'd know he isn't the GA is that I was the GA.

If you don't kill me today, I'll die tomorrow - but if you kill me, Jack dies.

[BluarianKnight]

Yeah, BK if you really are the GA, you fucked up hard.

I know.

I haven't had a town game since MMMM - my townplay is still fucking terrible.

Let me lay it out though - if you kill me now, Jack dies tomorrow - that's certain. If I don't die, Gnosia will certainly target me. If they don't, you can kill me tomorrow - you'll probably investigate me - even if you don't, me not being dead after confirmed GA is improbable at best.

[TricMagic]

I can now see a Web/Jim team with toony seeming to gain some town credibility in my eyes. I did see you saying my stuff made no sense too.

[notquitethere]

Possibilities for coldsleeping Blu:

1. Blu is telling the truth - we coldsleep Blu and scum believe the claim and NK Jack - BAD TOWN PLAY
2. Blu is lying but town - we coldsleep Blu and scum believe the claim and try to NK Jack and fail - GOOD TOWN PLAY
3. Blu isn't believed by scum, is coldsleeped and they NK someone random - MEDIOCRE TOWN PLAY
4. Blu is lying and scum - we coldsleep Blu and scum kill someone else because they know the real GA is alive still - BAD SCUM PLAY

Possibilities for not coldsleeping Blu:

1. Blu is telling the truth and scum believe it - Blu is NK'd and no one is protected in future nights - BAD TOWN PLAY
2. Blu is lying but scum think he's the GA - Blu is NK'd, GA protects coroner on future nights - GOOD TOWN PLAY
3. Blu is scum and trying to avoid being coldsleeped, isn't NK'd and so is immediately on the block on the subsequent night, the real GA can counterclaim by lylo - MEDIOCRE SCUM PLAY

The only way Blu is town and and good player is if they're fakeclaiming. There's no way this is a good scum ploy, at best its reactive mediocre play. I believe Blu is a good player (or, at least, not a terrible one), so... Caz

[webadict]

Hi Web/Toony:

(To be clear, that's not "Web or Toony," that's a slash pairing a la "Kirk/Spock.")

I jumped to Web being AC instead of gnosia because

1. I don't think the move of fakeclaiming out of the gate is what Web usually likes doing on a scumteam. Web is fundamentally a team-oriented player.

2. Think about it like this: You're AC, and your job is to be useful to the scum. Literally the most helpful thing you can do is to:
- signal your presence to the scumteam so they don't try to kill you
- out the town power roles

Web shows up and goes "Yeah, let's out the PRs!" in literally his first post. Like ... great? And then Toony follows up? "It's a great strategy to out the PRs!"

. . . . OK, honestly, rereading this I would buy a Web x Toony scumteam. *sigh*.

I mean I still think investigating web is the right play. It's 50/50 that he is AC or gnosia and with the other 5 it's what, 20%?

Be careful, if Web is AC they should inspect as human. But I agree that Web is a good inspect.


I wanna reread, but I think I would be OK with freezing Toony (scummy w/Web) today if we're doing the engineer counterclaim counterinspect thing. Not sure about AC yet if we have Toony/Web gnosia. Looking forward to seeing more posts from Jim after the weekend ends.

Tric, if Vector is Engineer, why does this post exist?

Goddamn, y'all dumb.

[webadict]

Note that Vector talks to Caz as thought they are the Engineer, but says I am not the real Engineer.

Then claims Engineer.

[webadict]

And since Vector thinks I'm AC, then that should definitively prove they are Gnosia. Not ACF.

[ToonyMan]

PFP

That post you quoted  Web is exactly why I think Vector is lying. Their interaction with Caz there makes no sense.

[BluarianKnight]

Caz.

[webadict]

Note, at that point, Vector should've claimed and outted TWO SCUM. But talks to Caz instead.

I am okay with dying tonight if we want to freeze Vector.

[ToonyMan]

Hmmm, NQT brings up good points. I want to bag Blue and Vector together, but Vector could be purposely setting Blu up for failure by behaving the same as Revolution III.

Basically Vector is more scummy than Blue, but Vector also has Engy protection so I really don't want to chance it today.

[webadict]

Vector: Be careful, if Web is AC they should inspect as human. But I agree that Web is a good inspect.
TricMagic: Obviously Vector is the Engineer.

[webadict]

Vector: Be careful, if Web is AC they should inspect as human. But I agree that Web is a good inspect.
TricMagic: Obviously Vector is the Engineer.

Also Jim: I believe Vector over Web.

[webadict]

Also Toony... I'm probably dead tonight anyway if we vote out Caz.

I'm forced to inspect Blu, and if I die, it creates huge WIFOM everywhere.

It gives up Vector, but Vector is so obviously Gnosia it hurts.

Also, lol if you thought I was gonna actually inspect Vector. I know they're Gnosia. I am in awe at some of your responses to that, you guys can apparently tell when I'm lying but can't see through that???

You guys are hilarious.

[ToonyMan]

Caz is never town here, but they're very likely ACF which is not great.

I'm currently debating whether to go with 80% Gnosia / 20% town BK or 80% ACF / 20% Gnosia Caz.