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[ToonyMan]

Tric, putting 2 spies on the same team is great if it passes.

If neither sabotage then rebels get a free mission win.
If both spies sabotage then nobody on that team is going on a mission ever again.
Best case is only one spy sabotages, but that still means nobody is going to want to put anybody on that team on a mission again.

In other words, rebels should either:
1. Place themselves with other rebels.
2. Place themselves with as many spies as possible.

I'm not passing a team that doesn't follow this motivation.

On the flipside, a spy made team has one goal in mind:
1. Place self on team with only rebels.

A spy isn't going to place other spies on their team, because any number of sabotages will blacklist the members of that team.

Most importantly TEAMS THAT DON'T INCLUDE THE PERSON MAKING THE TEAM IS AN IMMEDIATE FAIL

Team leaders need to include themselves on the team, this is incredibly important to corner team leader spies.

[TricMagic]

The issue with this plan is of course that Spies only need two wins to sabotage. Why not just blacklist the person who made the team with the ones on it instead?

[ToonyMan]

We don't have the players to do that. Blacklisting three players if the first mission fails is already a lot, adding a fourth player would only make it worse. Team leaders need to include themselves right now.

I have no idea what you mean by "spies only need two wins".

Either team needs 3 mission wins, this is why even if spies choose to lay low on M1 they're shooting themselves in the foot. I think the main reason lay low exists is for when multiple spies are on the same team, but that's still very good for us.

[webadict]

BK, make a team with you and TricMagic. I will pass it.

[webadict]

You, TricMagic, FoU. I will insta-pass.

[ToonyMan]

You, TricMagic, FoU. I will insta-pass.

I'd pass that.

[BluarianKnight]

You, TricMagic, FoU. I will insta-pass.

Why?
Because you think me and Tric are scum?
I don't get the FoU pick then, in that case.

Y'all are thinking at four layers of metacognition while the rest of us newbies are down in the first layer of metacognition.

BluarianKnight: Do me a favor? Pick two players who are the least likely to be spies, and explain your reasoning to me.

Euchrejack and Jim.

Euchrejack.. I think a lot of people have stated, did a giant town-vomit-dump early on. Didn't have his shit together, but he was clearly 'town getting back into the groove' more than 'spy'. I don't think a spy could/would do something like that.. or at least, could do that without any hiccups. He's town to me.

Jim's just been playing hard town gutread to me - it's a gut feel. Spies need to be active in this game to really succeed, or try to lurk their way to a mission pick later on - he's done neither. Just enough activity to be on the board, but not trying any manipulative play.

[ToonyMan]

So what's the play?

Are you going to put players you think are rebels with you or are you going to put players you think are spies with you?

[EuchreJack]

Let's just get this out of the way...I'm the Commander.

Because seriously, everyone is going to claim Commander before the game ends, so might as well get it out there now.

Gotta read up everything more carefully in a while.

[webadict]

PASS.

Your move now, BK.

[BluarianKnight]

i want to hear from Web first - then I'm putting my Team down. But yeah, I'm probably leaning all rebels for now.

Also, I am the commander.

Right.

EuchreJack, Jim, Bluarianknight

[webadict]

Ugh, BK gonna BK it up for us.

PASS.

If this fails, BK is the Spy, 100%.

[ToonyMan]

I let Jack borrow my Commander badge today so I'll vote what he votes.

[Vector]

PASS, wevs. Jim + Euchre is pretty good.

[TricMagic]

Pass. No toony or web on this team, so should be good. Though that isn't a high bar.