Alright something I've been wanting to do for a bit but haven't been able to work up the energy to do.
I'm going to use the readslist I gave to NQT sometime before day end because it's the last full readslist I provided in-thread. Most of my thoughts could have been inferred from my other posts but I wanted to collect them all in one spot.
Toonyman: I mindmelded pretty hard with Toony yesterday and honestly it just felt like he was oozing towniness.
Jim: Solving, and felt very different from wolf!Jim in BYOR 15. Wolf Jim spent most of the game complaining about the number of posts, this Jim is much less grumpy and much more solvy. It's a good look.
Icy: I don't actually remember where this strong townread came from. The most I can remember is that it was probably an early-day townread that I held over for the rest of the day.
Toaster: I actually had Toaster in my "circle of trust" category personally because the way he pressured my claim felt like the town!Toaster claim pressure in BYOR 15, but lowered him to the top of the tier below because a bunch of better players than me were saying he was wolfy.
Vector: I don't think there was anything specifically about Vector that said "town" yesterday, but there was nothing especially wolfy either, so they wound up here due to "nothing against them" and "is a good player who's an asset to town if innocent".
webadict: webadict was somewhat similar to Vector, only with a couple things that stood out to me. I got town vibes off of a couple posts from web (like the post where he decided to try out a new form of analysis) but he also felt a little... off. Other people have described him as "not being obnoxious enough" or similar which I think is getting at the same thing I felt: that he was taking the game more seriously than usual. It was sort of a mixed bag but I wasn't really wolfreading this slot so he ends up at the bottom of my "will not lynch" category.
Lucky: IIRC this was a mix of "feels a bit like town Lucky", a believable claim, and I think this was the wagon that people jumped onto at lightning speed and it made me uncomfortable.
Tric: I ping-ponged hard on Tric over the course of the day but eventually settled on "meh, probably not high priority" because he kept being so obtuse and so ignorant of game mechanics I had trouble seeing him as scum. His play was super wolfy though, and without that mitigating factor he'd have been much lower.
NQT: I've had... a lot of thoughts on NQT this game. A lot of little things NQT did yesterday pinged at me but I put him in this category because I feel like NQT's playstyle is one I will always scumread, a la Chelsea (for web and Vec who know what that means), which mitigated it slightly. As I was writing the section below I remembered something that bothered me about him that I don't think I shared publicly: he felt like he just rolled over and showed his belly whenever he got challenged by someone.
juicebox: hardcore flying under the radar, not really pushing any cases, and RVSing thirty six hours into D1. There was a bunch of wolfy stuff here. Wound up at the top of the group because he had fewer posts in which to be wolfy than others, and another wolfy player (NQT) was big on this case.
Persus/secretdorf: secretdorf had been wolfy and Persus did very little to allay suspicions, he was busy so he didn't post a lot of content which made it hard to undo the wolfiness of secret.
blue: Lolme. Most of blues posts felt performative, like he was explicitly trying to appear townie but faking too hard.
With that as a baseline (my thoughts were probably a little different by day end but the 48 hour night kinda blanked my mind on a lot of my more specific thoughts), let's go into my opinions today.
LuckyOwl: My opinion on Lucky's alignment is essentially: it doesn't matter, in the most likely worst case scenario he's the best choice to prevent an instant town loss. I've already showed my math for lucky being converted by a charismatic cult and why, in that scenario, or if you're even worried about that scenario, Lucky is the best choice to prevent a potential town loss. I also think that, just for the possibility of a double convert, converting Lucky is a good night action choice for a charismatic cult specifically, because it puts them one day away from victory. I don't think a Dark Magus converts lucky there, the double-convert is much less valuable because Lucky was under a reasonable amount of suspicion at EoD 1, so if we're facing a Dark Magus team I think lucky is locktown. Unfortunately, we don't have time try and see which kind of team we're facing because this could well be MYLO, so Lucky it is.
Sidenote on Lucky: if we're not facing a cult and the kill was blocked last night I think Lucky is slightly >rand town just based on "he feels like town Lucky, for better or worse."
Toony could definitely have been the convert last night, as noted previously he feels noticeably different to me today than he did yesterday. It feels like he's just rolling over whenever I challenge him on something and I'm not mindmelding with his posts like I did yesterday. He's also a decent convert regardless of the team, he's a strong player with a high degree of thread presence who was widely townread yesterday. If there's no converter he's probably just town, though.
Fun fact, I actually thought Toony was devil when Lucky posted about it because he was pretty hard on "Lucky wolf" yesterday and the devil supposedly told Lucky that taking the deal would make him look town. I was probably also biased by Toony's BYOR 15 role being a devil but eh.
NQT has, all things considered, felt much better today than he did yesterday. Probably it's just the D2 NQT spike where he actually has a few things to work with, since he's a very analytical player.
Toaster... hmm. I don't like Toaster's insistence that a vampire cult is even in the cards, it feels like baseless fearmongering and spreading doubt in the thread. That said, I'm not familiar enough with Toaster to know whether the line of thought that leads him to "vampire cult could be a thing" is a legitimate town line of thought for him. Anyone have a better read on Toaster here?
Persus has felt better to me ever since I poked him to pick up his game. It feels like he's putting thought into solving the game, even if I don't agree with a lot of his solves.
Icy has fallen off hard. Voting Lucky "for the sake of having my vote do something" is pretty -squints-, and whatever I noticed yesterday that made me townread him isn't present today. I think I'll sheep the people saying "Icy is the devil" since I don't have a better guess of who it is and it makes sense at at least a basic level.
Tric is still pingponging all over the place in my reads list for basically the same reasons he was yesterday: his posts are hella wolfy but a lot of his stuff loops back around into TWTBAW or show an ignorance of game mechanics he probably wouldn't have if he had a team to explain things to him.
I'll get to thoughts on the remaining players at some point later, these were the thoughts that floated to the top of my mind while I was writing this and I've got a huge pile of stuff to do.
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