I have become the WoTer.
I'll add that I'm still bothered that Secretdorf only voted LuckyOwl after he was prodded and pressured about it instead of doing that to begin with. He's not clear by any means.
It's actually worse than I thought when I said this.
As I have not been replaced yet, I'll say that I am being lynched due to thinking I am lurking scum, but I am not. Scum are jumping on me because I am not defending myself and townies think I am the perfect lynch target. I would have claimed but I am not because scum will know how to kill me which is bad for town. Luckyowl's probably a far better target than I but he is on the scumteam so scum are not fueling a lynch on him. I think NQT is probably town because theyre not going for the easy lynch.
As my last words, I'll say tricmagic is most likely scum but I am not voting for them because other people think they are town and also they could be lying as town because their claim is simply a lie and I don't know why they are being townread by some people.
Luckyowl's play so far in this game is almost opposite to their town play. Why is that not clear to people? When they are town, they are scumhunting and not just keep saying they are town. I at least tried to post my thoughts on the game but the large amount of content is almost impossible for me to read and properly process and analyze due to already less time I have due to RL. Many of my reads so far are slightly influenced by other reads which I considered genuine. Therefore, I'll say that any town player voting me should immediately unvote me because if you dont, then persus or heydude will likely have to claim which will be not good for town. As an alternative lynch, I'll propose luckyowl or tricmagic. Oh and toonyman's probably town too.
I wish I had read this post more closely before I unvoted because if I had read it I might not have.
You are once again betraying what you say is your top scum read to go do something else instead.
Once was bad enough but twice is too difficult to ignore even if you are already replaced.
Luckyowl, are you genuinely busy somewhere else this week? I want to hear from you.
yeah, I work during the day and finish in the evening. So I'm mostly not here for a good while. When the game started on weds I came back to 7 pages of nonsense rvs and memefeast post that I didn't wish to give a 'read' on those sort of nonsense so I went off to play some M&B:2. Here I am and now it seems I'm up the chopping block. So I'll laid out a proposal. I am the priest and I think we should lynch webadict. Mainly for two reason. If he is scum, then we just outted a pretty terrifying scum player, if he is town then I can rez him at night bringing him back into the game as a more powerful confirmed town. It's a win-win in all account. A dead scum! Web is great and a confirmed town! web who was brought from the dead is even better.
I personally wanted to stay quiet for two reasons. First I wanted go off and play games with few hours I have to myself and two I am afraid that I would get night killed all I hope is that someone can protect me as I res Web if he turn out to be town with his lynch. Sadly. I doubt anyone would join in with my plan, but it's the only way I can confirm myself as a town player by bringing a possible town player and make them a powerful confirmed town player. If we lynch a scum! Web then that too confirms me.
This is exactly the sort of plan I would expect you to come up with but it's terrible for several different reasons, which is entirely within what I expect from you so I guess my read on you is improving.
I'd really like to hear some logic and persuasive arguments from you. I'm seeing you glom on to the easy target, and I know you're better than that.
If I haven't impressed you so far I doubt I'm going to.
You should be impressed, however.
GLORY DAYS ETC.
Case on BluearianKnight
I like this, but I'm biased because it agrees in large part with my read on BluearianKnight.
Tric, Vector, of the three wagons (Secret, Blue, Lucky) which do you favour? What about Juice?
Definitely Lucky, but I'll be completely honest that it's primarily about *really* not wanting to LYLO with them again, especially if they're not going to bother participating D1. Every unit of time that they don't post makes them look worse (or more appetizing, I guess).
So that this isn't all about policy, I don't think we should wagon Secret when they're up for replace and bothered to come back and make another post. Blue and Juice are ... idk, at least trying. I'm not going to shed tears over any of them getting tossed D1, but I think we have the most to gain from wagoning Lucky.
If they come back and try to defend themselves because they think they're about to die, we'd at least get some data.
Damn it, really? You guys ae really going to vote Luckyowl?
*shrug* Look, they're awful to LYLO with and that almost made them into a D1 policy-lynch. Add "I'm just not gonna do D1" to that? Nah. Like, we haven't seen a big scumslip so far other than this kind of disengagement, so we might as well roll.
What's your other recommendation -- 4mask or something? Don't make me laugh.
I'm not a fan of LuckyOwl policy lynch aspect of your vote but I endorse the 'he hasn't done anything' part of it. (At least up to this part of the thread where you made these posts.)
You know, what is LuckyOwl's record for lylo? The times I've seen him there he managed to clutch out a win while annoying everyone in the process.
- LuckyOwl PR claim
Priests aren't worth keeping around solely for their role.
Also this is quite a turnaround from your previous opinion of LuckyOwl. He suddenly showed up, sure, but the policy lynch part of it still seems like it should be in play.
- Persus needs a chance to catch up.
Recently replaced players can still be sc
Never mind we already hashed this out.
How 'bout shooting IcyTea31?
. . .
Leaning ICT and Toaster for sidelining right now. None of ICTs attacks have had much heft.
Sidelining?
IcyTea31 is making grooves on less popular tracks (I hope this metaphor makes sense) but I don't get the sense he's avoiding anything out of malice.
Everyone, and I do mean everyone, I want your opinion on this.
Mm, actually ranking my shoot-then-rez list:
Shoot then rez is a bad plan.
Let's not do that.
Everyone else: is the complete moon logic Tric's been spewing about me alignment indicative? I've not played as many games with him as most of you have so I'd like some input.
I agree it's nonsense but I don't read scum off it.
This is probably the wrong take.
But the first thing I thought when I read that post from Persus was that he'd asked his scumbuddies for a quick summary and that's his interpretation of it. It's just a weird takeaway from actually reading up to the point in the game where I claimed wererat, people were more grumpy about my memeing about than about the claim itself and by the time I claimed wererat it was already more or less accepted.
It also completely glosses over things like Tric's claim which also happened during that time period.
For intuition I don't think it's bad.
Vector: Low-profile play implies something to hide. Scum-or-cop. Readslist looks like town PoV.
Low profile? What?
I get no impression Vector is trying to avoid anything.
As for funniest, I would spend the game converting LuckyOwl over and over again even if he was unconvertable and even if the conversion was successful.
Is this wishful thinking, or do you actually suspect scum has a conversion mechanic?
I have no knowledge of what the scumteam is. The context of the question was conversions so I answered with that context in mind.
Looking at how the wind is blowing towards lynching one of the low-activity players, I think juicebox is where I want my vote to be right now, as only NQT is pushing for that one. If correct, it'd be so unlikely to be a bus that it'd core NQT in my book. I'm fine with a Luckyowl lynch, too.
If I read this right this is actually an indirect attack on notquitethere?
Jim, do you think Lucky and Juicebox are less scummy than Secret?
At the time you asked this, LuckyOwl was only marginally less scummy than Secretdorf. I don't read juicebox as scum, just terse.
LuckyOwl claiming and actually being present drops him down quite a bit but I still strongly rate Secretdorf/Persus13 as scum.
Literally anyone, does anything Juicebox has come out with make sense from a town POV?
I don't have a good read on his meta but nothing he's produced screams too terribly at me.
Do you really think a scum!NQT would think it a priority to publicise the possible composition of the scum teams? Scum want town to forget that vampires are cultists, or that cultists can be mafia, or that hunters can hunt things not in the game.
Are you really persisting with this bizarre line? C'mon. Just admit spending a non-trivial amount of time informing the town what the threats could be is not actually a scum tell.
I feel like you're bothered by this more than you should be.
I have tried to figure out where you're coming from on IcyTea31 and juicebox to a lesser extent but I still find myself struggling to see things from your perspective.
Picking lurkers is not a bland or easy read.
How am I aiming for low-fruits? Hell, at this rate anyone I feel are scum could be 'low-fruits'. Lucky and Secret are playing in a way completely different then what I saw them do in Vengeful - even if they're busy, Secret's been half-assing his posts, and Lucky has barely interacted. Maybe they've both suddenly gotten busy after signing up, but I don't believe that.
You've responded to the substance of what Toaster is poking you for but not for what I'm poking you for. I don't actually care much about the content of your reads lists and I'm pretty meh on going after easy targets.
I said you were acting, i.e. not being authentic, like you were trying to adhere to a meta but didn't know quite how to pull it off. Your vehement vote on 4maskwolf and your quick reversal, and then you acknowledging criticisms levelled against your play without much complaint. It's hard for me to believe that you are genuine with your posts earlier in the day.
Calling somebody inauthentic is a very serious accusation, which is why you're my second top suspect after Secretdorf/Persus13, and you would be my top if I didn't feel that pairing was more blatant.
Jim - You've recently unvoted, but haven't put a new vote down. Who are you leaning to vote on, and why?
You, because you're not authentic.
But actually
Persus13.