NQT's whole response to my claim has been pretty mrrrr for one simple reason.
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I get the point you're trying to make about NQT going too easy on you or giving you too much slack for your survivor claim.
What do you make of TricMagic who more aggressively doubted your claim?
I could probably go dig that up but you're posting ten times more frequently than I am so I figure you have the bandwidth to spoonfeed me.
Thinking on it, I'd propose a 4mask/Secretdorf/scumteam. One with very weird things going on and missing a member, but seeking to turn the lynch off of another.
What makes you think either of those players are trying to throw people off the other?
Jim Groovester: How quaint the suspicious people are at the bottom. Lurking, promising more later, you get the jist. Your streak may end, so best get hunting so it doesn't happen.
Dude give me a break. Not all of us have enough free time that we can make posts about the video games we've finished recently.
I could just be saying that to throw you off track you know. Why the shift to Blue without any reasoning.
Are you trying to WIFOM on purpose?
Well i guess I should get my post count up then.
I'll start by saying I believe Tricmagic's claim, they just seem genuine to me.
I think 4mask's claim is a bit more dubious however, especially when you consider the possibility of a 4mask Toaster scumteam.
For real? The guy who says 'I don't have a valuable role, please spend actions on me to confirm it' seems genuine to you?
I have to say your opinions about the believability of TricMagic's and 4maskwolf's claims are an inversion of mine.
Since you asked NQT
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NQT is null for me
Why NQT when you read him as null?
I am 90%sure luckyowl is mafia this game but I am not going to press that until I have evidence.
Day ends tomorrow and LuckyOwl might not show up to give you evidence to make that assertion. 90% is a pretty strong feeling. Are you really not going to vote?
@Jim:
>has an important meeting today
>gets hammered while singing about titans the night before
>preparing for a meeting any other way
no hammers
Webadict, I meant getting intoxicated there. On beer. Hammered. Shitfaced. Drunk on the booze.
Seven beers to hammer.juicebox
IcyTea: I plan on finding scum and lynching them D2 instead.
Let's assume there's good town play from other players and scum gets lynched on D1, but you can't quite take credit for it. Where do you start looking for scum on D2?
I had to follow the exchange to figure out what you were poking at here.
Is there much value in asking questions more or less to the tune of 'you already fucked up, how do you dig yourself out of the hole?'?
Jim Groovester
The smart answer is that I would pick people who would help me win but the answer I am going to give is the people who would be funnest to have on my team.
Names, Jim. Who would it be funniest to have on your team?
Firstly I said funnest, as in, most fun, not funniest. And of the players in the game I would probably pick woobadooba, ToonyMan, and Toaster.
As for funniest, I would spend the game converting LuckyOwl over and over again even if he was unconvertable and even if the conversion was successful.
Jim
Didn't read the thread closely but NQT's big scum team breakdown is useful but I didn't see much in the way of scumhunting or declaring reads. I have found in previous games productive gestures like that scummy when absent of meaningful scumhunting.
Absolutely. I get this kind of pushback in every game where I provide information. People are always like "yeah but it's not scum reads". I'm a man for all seasons, I can do both. But I am beholden to the laws of time and space just like everyone else, so I usually can't do both simultaneously. This criticism will hold water if I do literally nothing else in the day other than be informative.
I think the criticism is a bit fairer here than in other games since as of your big breakdown post I don't think you had made much in terms of prods, questions, suspicions, or votes on other players.
Eh, your posts up to the break down were not completely contentless like I was thinking but it's still pretty light. On catching up with the thread I feel a little better about you.
IcyTea
Pressure vote or lynch vote? Not clear on the reasons if the latter.
I felt like I wasn't being pressuring enough - so I used my vote. I bandwagoned and let others lead me along last night, and I realized I probably should make a more legitimate claim before putting my vote out. It's why dropped my vote on you - I didn't have much of a claim, and my intuition told me on second-read you probably were town.
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I was trying too hard at the time - again, didn't build a case, was terrible scumhunting practices I'll admit to now.
Also; parroting Web? Yeah, I did that too. I'll admit this now - I've got a bias on Web and Vector - both of them I highly respect, and I've tried to base my strategies off of their plays (wackiness + well researched posts). So, when I saw this;
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I was definitely swayed by this - I'll try to keep my bias off this, but I'm willing to admit fault.
Okay you are doing nothing to make me feel less uneasy about you and in fact are doing the opposite. You are increasing my unease about you.
Mafia is not the game to fall on your sword and bend in response to pressure.
You are acting.
Mmm, yes. My votes give you reason to think I'm town. Which votes are those? I have not cast a vote during Day 1.
Off from work. Expect a bigger post in a couple hours.
Welp. I didn't mean votes - I meant prods. I got no fucking clue why I put votes.
I could and am very much tempted to accuse you of making bland reads lists without putting much thought or detail into them, and otherwise going through the motions.
@Vector: Pocketing the noob? I like that you think I exist in a vacuum, and that I can't expect people to be Town unless they are a noob. I watched all of Vengeful 14 and saw a good player. I watched YellowPixel's play, too. I will say that BK is not really a noob to me. YP is, but BK seems like their experience translates well here, so not exactly a noob. Though, I will correct something I missed yesterday: I meant to type that, within the last few games we've played, I have suspected you as Town, however, this time I feel much more solidly that this assertion is correct, especially since you hardswerved based on that accusation and OMGUSed back.
Your own readslist has a number of skilled players at the top, so obviously that wasn't my point. BK is an outsider relative to this board, thus potentially psychological vulnerable, thus good to buddy and pocket. You buddied up to them, and you didn't do the usual "if you want to take down BK, you'll go through me first!" thing you typically do as town (see HK on MU, MightyMushroom in CYOM4, repeatedly chainsawing me and LuckyOwl in various other games).
You have indeed suspected me as town on many occasions, but you have also, every single time, tried to determine if I was town, because you know that having me on your side is better than the other way around. But this time it's impossible, so you have to attack me -- tentatively, gently, because you know I haven't done anything -- and rely on thin scumtells, like "Vector playing erratically" (when have I not?).
I'm not swerving based on your accusation, kiddo. I'm swerving because you outed yourself as scum. You know that you have to come and get me. It's what we do. But you also know that I've got teeth, and this time, you sound like you're afraid to die.
This analysis confuses me mostly because its premise requires a mindset for webadict that I don't necessarily see him exhibiting.
But your attack is also directed at webadict so I have no reason to intervene on his behalf.
MINDGAMES
MINDGAMES
Alright I am going to check out of trying to understand this exchange.
I am present, and again I am town. I won't be saying much since I hate day 1 and would only make myself look scummy eventhough I am town. If anything I will be useful for townies during the night phase. If scum kills me then at least you'll see I'll flip and my night action will still go through either way.
This seems unusually low effort for LuckyOwl.
I find Secretdorf, LuckyOwl, and BluearianKnight scummiest of the players here. Secretdorf for not voting a player he finds 90% scummy, LuckyOwl for being abnormally passive (pfeh, feels like saying Org is low content though), and BluearianKnight for making me feel like he's trying to tune his appearance a certain way but not succeeding particularly well at it.
Let's go with
Secretdorf. Yeah he's being replaced whatever.