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Author Topic: Refit and Repair 2. Magna Mongadizafra, Spring, 1896, Revision&Refit Phase.  (Read 19497 times)

m1895

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Re: Refit and Repair 2. Magna Mongadizafra, Pregame History Turn 7.
« Reply #60 on: February 17, 2021, 04:30:15 pm »

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Re: Refit and Repair 2. Magna Mongadizafra, Pregame History Turn 7.
« Reply #61 on: February 17, 2021, 04:38:45 pm »

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Re: Refit and Repair 2. Magna Mongadizafra, Pregame History Turn 7.
« Reply #62 on: February 17, 2021, 04:39:29 pm »

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Re: Refit and Repair 2. Magna Mongadizafra, Pregame History Turn 7.
« Reply #63 on: February 17, 2021, 04:49:29 pm »


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Re: Refit and Repair 2. Magna Mongadizafra, Pregame History Turn 8.
« Reply #64 on: February 18, 2021, 02:30:38 am »

Magna Mongadizafra, Pregame History Turn 8.

We celebrated the unification of our ancestral homeland. And why wouldn't we? Even if our governments have major differences, at heart we are still Italians. While different from the mainlanders, much like one from southern Italy are different from the north, we are still Italians. Of course, we aren't a part of Italy and are our own nation but still, the point still stands. Over time however, our southern neighbor who seemed to have gained the Ire from the United Kingdom over the years has had a number of...concerning issues about them. Ever since they managed to fight the British and declare independence after a long grueling guerilla war, they had gone down a strange path, one that lead to them becoming a socialist state. Regardless, their 'republic' practically run by unions has caused tensions as of late due to...

1. Socialist Agitators organizing Strikes for a number of key industries that we need for our country to function. Naturally strike busters and police were able to put things back into order, though a number of confrontations caused Veenland to openly advocate for further strikes in the name of revolution. This, combined with the political beliefs of a number of the arrested strike leaders led to the natural and clear conclusion that Veenland was responsible, and this was very openly stated by a number of politicians and newspapers. Needless to say both the general public and government weren't too happy with Veenland involvement in our own affairs.

2. A fishing vessel that went off course were accosted by Veenlandic naval vessels and sunk, and they had the gal to not only keep it's crew detained, but demand that we stop fishing in their waters. This, naturally, caused a large number of fishers in protest to sail into Veenlandic waters intentionally, and was encouraged by our admittedly more...jingoist members of government. Needless to say, this has escalated a bit out of our hands, though it is their fault that all of this happened with how blatantly they sank the vessel. Needless to say, this has only angered Veenland further, which has sent a number of threats regarding our fishing ships.

3. The attempted assassination of the Presidente Canziano De Girolamo by the Socialist revolutionary Zetico Giannotti. Of course, we cannot prove that he was directly hired by the Veenlanders, but given the fact that he was able to escape prison and we believe he managed to make it to Veenland he surely has to have some ties with them. Needless to say, this alone should be enough for war, but it gets worse, as a massive conspiracy to completely destroy our nations government was found. Of course the evidence for this conspiracy is admittedly a bit flimsy, there are enough facts a part of it that can be proven true, or aren't able to be disproven that it has managed to take the media and government by storm.
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Re: Refit and Repair 2. Magna Mongadizafra, Pregame History Turn 8.
« Reply #65 on: February 18, 2021, 03:41:30 am »

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Re: Refit and Repair 2. Magna Mongadizafra, Pregame History Turn 8.
« Reply #66 on: February 18, 2021, 03:53:34 am »

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Re: Refit and Repair 2. Magna Mongadizafra, Pregame History Turn 8.
« Reply #67 on: February 18, 2021, 08:54:35 am »


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Re: Refit and Repair 2. Magna Mongadizafra, Pregame History Turn 8.
« Reply #68 on: February 18, 2021, 09:02:32 am »

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Re: Refit and Repair 2. Magna Mongadizafra, Pregame History Turn 8.
« Reply #69 on: February 18, 2021, 09:10:06 am »

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Re: Refit and Repair 2. Magna Mongadizafra, Pregame History Turn 8.
« Reply #70 on: February 18, 2021, 11:01:34 am »

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Where's my option to start sending naval vessels on provocative freedom-of-navigation exercises? :P
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Re: Refit and Repair 2. Magna Mongadizafra, 1st Pregame Design Phase.
« Reply #71 on: February 19, 2021, 03:50:24 am »

Magna Mongadizafra, Final Pregame History Turn & First Pregame Design turn.

The sinking of the Lena Lo Schiavo by Veenland was a key point of our tensions with them. Of course, they claimed that the ship rammed one of their cruisers when it tried escorting them back to Magna sea's, and that the ship had crossed into Veenland waters multiple times. Needless to say, our government and fishers weren't having any of it, and in retaliation to our just action, they claimed that we were tyrants rather than a true republic due to our treatment of workers, pointing out a number of minor strikes that, due to socialist agitation, turned violent. Of course, they framed such as the police acting against them, and naturally threw in a few ridiculous claims of further oppression while calling upon the people to demand change and use the weapon that was the strike to fight against such a thing, and the socialists of our nation did exactly that, were we were easily able to deal with them and restore order, though this caused tensions to reach a boiling point, and it's expected that war is practically inevitable...Thankfully, our navy stands strong.

It is now Pregame Design Phase of Turn 1 of 4
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Re: Refit and Repair 2. Magna Mongadizafra, 1st Pregame Design Phase.
« Reply #72 on: February 20, 2021, 10:14:01 pm »

Glory to Mongadizafra, Glory to the Republic

Well in a effort to get some design's on the table and this thread moving I propose the creation of a harbor/coastal defense monitor to serve as a floating battery, light transport for marines in wartime and harbor inspectors in peace time.

Serpiente Class Monitor
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I know this design isn't exactly the best for any specific role being under armed and under armored with no clear purpose, I simply see it as a early piece of utility ferrying small amount of troops and providing them with reasonable shore bombardment capabilities, at least until we get naval mines in which case the extra space could be used to carry a substantial amount of naval mines while still not diminishing its firepower.
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Re: Refit and Repair 2. Magna Mongadizafra, 1st Pregame Design Phase.
« Reply #73 on: February 20, 2021, 11:43:21 pm »

For reference, most discussion happens on Discord. Right now the rough plan on Discord that has gained consensus seems to be 5 techs + 2 ships (ships LAST so they benefit from all the techs). This allows 1 revision, but the 5th tech can be dropped as necessary to gain three more revisions.

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'Diretta' Naval Turbine Powerplant
Recently, turbine-based steam engines have become all the rage in certain circles, as the ship Turbinia has been built to demonstrate their capability. So we've adopted them in a bid to gain an advantage over any potential adversaries. The new turbines are incredible for reliably running at full speed or close to it, and they're generally more compact and lighter than the old expansion engines. They've been in land use for a decade so experience is not all that hard to come by. A directed effort by our naval engineers to install these engines in ships has lead to direct-drive turbines being commonplace among our vessels. Not needing particularly long-distance sailing, our turbine research has been directed exclusively at high-speed turbines, with no concession for cruising turbines or gearing or what-have-you.

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Composizione B Structural Steel
Naval investment in metallurgy has resulted in many helpful finds, but one of the most important is a means to formulate tougher structural steel. Adjustments to the materials in our steel alloy produce a mixture that is less prone to fractures and breaks under stress, while not losing the strength required of the ship's skeleton. We've also altered how we cool the steel ingots produced for our hulls, using water jets to reduce cooling stress and therefore reduce the number of crystalline pattern deformities that cause fracture points and increase the damage done to a component placed under stress. The improved strength of the most basic building block of our ships allows us to have more durable ships without gaining any weight. The altered behavior of our steel under stress, also known as "battle damage", reduces the size of holes and prevents damage from propagating as quickly when water or fire weakens the steel.

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Monteriggioni Vetreria Improved Rangefinders
With so much of our national budget directed to the navy, naturally our glassworking would be excellent. Truly, we have the best of all the important industries in the world. Our glassworking experts have come up with glass precisely machined enough to produce rangefinders of (presently) unparalleled size. Sure, a fifteen-foot rangefinder might be somewhat heavier and more delicate than a small one, but the added precision in ranging is of great aid! Many of our guns might not be able to shoot all the way out to the capabilities of the Vetreria's best model of rangefinder but between its great magnification and long useful range we can determine an enemy fleet's speed and heading earlier than they can, which is incredibly advantageous. Oh, and, um, well, maybe they lobbied a bit to get us to accept these better rangefinders rather than taking a cheaper one.

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Improved Armor Steel
Fundamentally, the best way to not die is to not get hit. However, sometimes you get hit anyway. In fact, a lot of the time you get hit anyway, because your enemy is doing their best to try and hit you. Dodging isn't always good, so surviving the hit is the next best thing. And the best way to survive the hit is to keep the projectile on the outside of the ship, through possessing sufficient armor. And the less mass of steel gets you to the "sufficient" mark, the better your ship can be at doing other ship things, like dodging incoming fire or carrying bigger guns to shoot the enemy with. To that end, we've invested heavily into the steel industry. Through refining our face-hardening process and the material composition of the armor plate, we've managed to improve the ductility of the non-hardened sections of armor and improve the resistance of the hardened portions, to make them less prone to shattering during a shell impact. The simple refusal of the armor plate to break into chunks improves its resistance to an incoming shell as the monolithic plate is better at absorbing the energy and dispersing it. Now, the addition of less plentiful elements than iron and carbon definitely increases the cost of our armor plating a bit, and the capital investment necessary to have this scale of high-quality face-hardening also increases cost, but the defensive advantages are plentiful and important.
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Re: Refit and Repair 2. Magna Mongadizafra, 1st Pregame Design Phase.
« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2021, 11:48:28 pm »

I figured as much about discord however I'm strongly in the camp of discord ruins the point of forum games, I've gotten too much joy reading through old forum games to really like this general trend towards discord of these last several years. Not condoning anyone for it I just prefer to use the forum as the point of communication so to speak.

Anyhow my personal preferences are pretty irrelevant I know I'm fighting against the tide
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