Topic: Refit and Repair 2. Magna Mongadizafra, Spring, 1896, Revision&Refit Phase. (Read 19488 times)

piratejoe · « **Reply #225 on:** February 08, 2022, 03:04:12 am »

Spring, 1895, Revision & Refit Phase.

Quote from: Madman198237 on January 28, 2022, 07:00:32 pm

SM1895b Torpedo
The SM1895 is a fine torpedo, or it would be if the designers hadn't made mistakes in every category of torpedo functionality. We've revamped the contact fuse to ensure that it detonates properly on contact, examined the depth-keeping system for bugs and fixed them, and finally we've worked to shave weight off the triple mount where possible, and where not we've just...built it properly? I mean, it's not like it's hitting some fundamental limitations on engineering or anything. It's an unarmored trio of low-pressure tubes on a post, on a turntable, after all. We can just build it as if it's meant to be a triple torpedo launcher that weighs as much as a triple torpedo launcher, and not a triple torpedo launcher that weighs as much as a double torpedo launcher or whatever the previous goal was.

Effectiveness: 6

This was a massive chore. No really, it was even if we managed to go through and fix most of the problems. Firstly, the contact detonator suffered not only from being in a terrible position but also being made of extremely poor materials and prone to deforming the few times it actually did hit to a degree it wouldn't actually fire. As for the depth issues the torpedo has, turns out it wasn't just a weight miscalculation but also a mechanical problem where the actual waterflow around the torpedo disrupted the mechanism and caused the torpedo to think it wasn't at the set depth. There were additionally an approximate 47 more issues with the torpedo that were minor bugs introduced during the process of fixing the torpedo or otherwise simply became more prominent once the biggest bugs had been bashed but finally, most of them are gone and we have a working torpedo. Also the work on fixing the turntable is fairly easy since the turntables used were originally for a single torpedo launcher rather than three strapped together, though the issue of weight isn't gone because it's three torpedo tubes strapped together and the issue was never that it weighs more than three torpedo tubes strapped together and more it weighs exactly that much at that portion of a ship. Still, it can be used, just at a likely chance of causing the torpedo boat or torpedo boat destroyer it's slapped on overweight or unbalanced.

It is now the Production&Strategy phase of Spring, 1895. You have 9 PP remaining should you pay for all maintenance and construction costs.

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Spoiler: Ship Classes (click to show/hide)

Lepidus class Light Cruiser: The Lepidus class is a blisteringly fast Light Armored Cruiser, or Light Cruiser, which has a good deal of armor that compliments it's speed. It's arguably undergunned but it's ability to pick it's fights, it's main prey being cargo ships, torpedo boat destroyers, and protected cruisers, should do enough to offset that. Especially with the addition of torpedoes. Costs 5/2, takes 4 seasons to build.
QF Refit (QFR): A simple replacement of the eligible smaller caliber guns to quick fire variants. Costs 1 PP to refit, takes 1 season to complete. Shipbuild cost same as original.
Armament Upgrade Refit (AUR): A upgrade that can be best defined as simply slapping more QF guns on the thing. Annoyingly, issues with regards to the fitting of the dual guns causes them to turn slower due to issues with the turntable and weight. Additionally, reduces the ships speed by roughly a knot. Costs 1 PP to refit, takes 1 season to complete. Shipbuild cost same as original.

Pompey Magnus Class Battleship:Arguably a miniature battleship, one that could be payed with whatever is in ones pocket compared to the price of true battleships, the Pompey Magnus class is...arguably mediocre. Yet, mediocracy in many numbers is a good thing. The ship is quite well armored and armed, though in part due to this it is slightly overweight, which could cause problems. Only costs 7/2, takes 6 seasons to build.
Refits of the Pompey Magnus Class:
Belt and Magazine Adjustments (BMA): Modification utilizing the overweight nature of the ship to cut down on the lower section of the belt in order to add a inch of armor to the rest of it, along with modification to the magazine in order to add another inch to the turret's armor.
QF Refit (QFR): A simple replacement of the eligible smaller caliber guns to quick fire variants. Costs 1 PP to refit, takes 1 season to complete. Shipbuild cost same as original.
Modernized (MOD): Modifications to the Belt and magazine, alongside the smaller caliber guns. Costs 1 PP to refit, takes 1 season to complete. Shipbuild cost same as original.

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Scholar Knight · « **Reply #226 on:** February 13, 2022, 06:57:28 pm »

Alright, basic gameplan write up. Bit busy but will try to get something up either to vote on or encourage a more detailed write up.

If we're under the assumption that this is the last turn the enemy will have almost no navy, before a sudden surge in CLs occurs next turn, then we should try to get as much progress as possible done before we are on the backfoot waiting for our BBs to finish.

This turn we have the following to work with:
4PP kept away for upgrading Drydock
4PP for whatever else, likely handing out the new artillery pieces to our mahreens.
The 9th PP should already have been spent on refitting the Labienus as part of the R&R phase. Please Correct.
10 CLs, 1 BB

Quote from: Operation: Veenland style Deathstack Manuever - East variant

Overall goal of the operation: push land victories as much as possible on the eastern front. See if we can secure one or both islands that are already contested.
-Protect allied landing parties and assist in shore-side bombardment.
-If enemy presence is negligible or outright absent, give the leading admiral permission to send out and perform raiding duties on enemy shipping. Likely after the initial landings have happened and there is less fire support our fleet needs to assist with.

Ships assigned: All 11 of them to the eastern front.

Production Expenditures:
-4PP on Dry Dock Expansion
-4PP on supplying the new 50mm, 75mm, 105mm, and 150mm Howitzers to our Marines to accelerate their deployment and distribution among our armed forces.

Quote from: votebox

Operation Deathstack (1) - SK

Madman198237 · « **Reply #227 on:** February 13, 2022, 08:48:16 pm »

Spoiler: better ship list because I was so tired of looking at the existing one's uneven spacing, sorry (click to show/hide)

Quote from: Kill Them All

All cruisers assigned under Eginardo Marino to operate in the Central front. Orders are to raid shipping and bombard every enemy port in the area. If they find elements of the enemy fleet small enough to be killed, they'll kill it.

The remaining battleship is to remain on guard in our home port, it's too slow to operate in this high-speed fleet.

Land forces will maintain most previous advances:
East now pushing to Maarsum and Jawelle, Center exploiting our raiding, pillaging, and murdering on the high seas to push both Fochtenburg and Kerkenduin. West is just going to hunker down and defend as effort (especially Marine forces) are pulled to the Center offensives.

Production Expenditures:
-4PP on Dry Dock Expansion
-3PP to supplying the new artillery to all our Marines and Army forces as fast as possible
-1PP to further moving modernized weapons to our Army forces (since IIRC they aren't all equipped yet; if they are by now then just dedicate the point to supplying more artillery)

TricMagic · « **Reply #228 on:** February 13, 2022, 09:19:47 pm »

Quote from: Madman198237 on February 13, 2022, 08:48:16 pm

Spoiler: better ship list because I was so tired of looking at the existing one's uneven spacing, sorry (click to show/hide)
CL - Light Cruiser
Lepidus Class, 14 ships, 31 Maintenance
Lepidus | CL | QFR | Unassigned | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Eginardo Marino is captain, Trained, Aggressive
Vettius | CL | QFR | Unassigned | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Bindo Zocco is captain, Greenhorn, Aggressive
Curio | CL | QFR | Unassigned | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged | Verulo Di Miceli is captain, Greenhorn, Aggressive
Vitellius | CL | QFR | Unassigned | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged | Gianpietro Nocella is captain, Greenhorn, Aggressive
Bibulus | CL | N/A | Unassigned | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged | Alessandro Ferro is captain, Greenhorn, Aggressive
Cato the Younger | CL | N/A | Unassigned | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Rodolfo Colasurdo is captain, Trained, Cautious
Brutus | CL | N/A | Unassigned | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Ildefonso Santoli is captain, Trained, Balanced
Labienus | CL | N/A | Unassigned | Crew are Trained | Medium Damage, 1 season | Azelio Guastella is captain, Greenhorn, Aggressive
Horatius | CL | N/A | Unassigned | Crew are Greenhorns | Heavy Damage, 2 seasons | Cremenzio Parziale is captain, Trained, Aggressive
Clodius | CL | N/A | Unassigned | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Euclide Iantosca is captain, Greenhorn, Balanced
Virgil | CL | N/A | Unassigned | Crew are Trained | Medium Damage, 2 seasons | Ursmaro Battaglia is captain, Greenhorn, Balanced, (Wounded 1 season)
Cassius | CL | N/A | Unassigned | Crew are Greenhorns | Undamaged | Bassiano Senatore is captain, Greenhorn, Balanced
Lucullus | CL | AUR | Unassigned | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Spano De Toro is captain, Trained, Aggressive
Suetonius | CL | QFR | Unfinished, 2 seasons remaining, 5 PP per turn construction cost

B - Pre Dreadnaught Battleship
Pompey Magnus Class, 12 ships, 69 Maintenance
Pompey Magnus | B | MOD | Unassigned | Crew are Trained | Undamaged | Mattia Cason is captain, Trained, Aggressive
Marcus Antonius | B | MOD | Repairing | Crew are Trained | Heavy damage, 1 season | Liberio Irene is captain, Greenhorn, Cautious
Germanicus | B | MOD | Unfinished, 2 seasons remaining, 7 PP per turn construction cost
Marcus Aurelius | B | MOD | Unfinished, 3 seasons remaining, 7 PP per turn construction cost
Basil | B | MOD | Unfinished, 3 seasons remaining, 7 PP per turn construction cost
Tiberius | B | MOD | Unfinished, 3 seasons remaining, 7 PP per turn construction cost
Trajan | B | MOD | Unfinished, 4 seasons remaining, 7 PP per turn construction cost
Constantine | B | MOD | Unfinished, 2 seasons remaining, 7 PP per turn construction cost
Hadrian | B | MOD | Unfinished, 3 seasons remaining, 7 PP per turn construction cost
Theodosius | B | MOD | Unfinished, 3 seasons remaining, 7 PP per turn construction cost
Justinian | B | MOD | Unfinished, 4 seasons remaining, 7 PP per turn construction cost

Quote from: Kill Them All
All cruisers assigned under Eginardo Marino to operate in the Central front. Orders are to raid shipping and bombard every enemy port in the area. If they find elements of the enemy fleet small enough to be killed, they'll kill it.

The remaining battleship is to remain on guard in our home port, it's too slow to operate in this high-speed fleet.

Land forces will maintain most previous advances:
East now pushing to Maarsum and Jawelle, Center exploiting our raiding, pillaging, and murdering on the high seas to push both Fochtenburg and Kerkenduin. West is just going to hunker down and defend as effort (especially Marine forces) are pulled to the Center offensives.

Production Expenditures:
-4PP on Dry Dock Expansion
-3PP to supplying the new artillery to all our Marines and Army forces as fast as possible
-1PP to further moving modernized weapons to our Army forces (since IIRC they aren't all equipped yet; if they are by now then just dedicate the point to supplying more artillery)

Bit bloodthirsty MM?

Madman198237 · « **Reply #229 on:** February 13, 2022, 10:23:26 pm »

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Happerry · « **Reply #230 on:** February 19, 2022, 11:30:17 pm »

Quote from: votebox

Operation Deathstack (2) - SK, Happerry

Both plans seem workable, honestly, but I don't see the point in causing a 1v1 tie.

Madman198237 · « **Reply #231 on:** February 20, 2022, 07:56:34 am »

Quote from: votebox

Operation Deathstack (2) - SK, Happerry
Kill Them All (1) - Madman

I want to push center and see if we can wipe their navy out.

m1895 · « **Reply #232 on:** February 20, 2022, 04:12:04 pm »

Quote from: votebox

Operation Deathstack (2) - SK, Happerry
Kill Them All (2) - Madman, m1895

TricMagic · « **Reply #233 on:** February 20, 2022, 05:20:22 pm »

Quote from: votebox

Operation Deathstack (2) - SK, Happerry
Kill Them All (3) - Madman, m1895, TricMagic

piratejoe · « **Reply #234 on:** February 22, 2022, 06:37:35 am »

Summer, 1896, Design Phase.

While there was no combat on the waves this turn, our practical uncontested control over the sea's in the center has allowed us to make major gains, and while the enemy has managed to get on by somewhat elsewhere, as our army modernizes with our support we will likely only further gain the upper hand. Though, it's probably for the best we don't give the army too much power. Otherwise they might threaten our interests. Still, a good few divisions should be, while not on par with the enemy's properly trained forces, on average more equivalent to conscripts rather than militia or mere military police. The situation at Echtwaar is a bit unfortunate though, but we will fix it in due time. After all, the only place we have lost any of our land is in the west. And considering the strategic and economic importance of the center and east, that is an acceptable sacrifice.

Due to the increased shift to a war economy, we have been granted 4 additional PP of funding.

It is now the Design phase of Summer, 1896. You have 6 dice remaining.

Spoiler: Projects (click to show/hide)

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Spoiler: Ship Classes (click to show/hide)

Lepidus class Light Cruiser: The Lepidus class is a blisteringly fast Light Armored Cruiser, or Light Cruiser, which has a good deal of armor that compliments it's speed. It's arguably undergunned but it's ability to pick it's fights, it's main prey being cargo ships, torpedo boat destroyers, and protected cruisers, should do enough to offset that. Especially with the addition of torpedoes. Costs 5/2, takes 4 seasons to build.
QF Refit (QFR): A simple replacement of the eligible smaller caliber guns to quick fire variants. Costs 1 PP to refit, takes 1 season to complete. Shipbuild cost same as original.
Armament Upgrade Refit (AUR): A upgrade that can be best defined as simply slapping more QF guns on the thing. Annoyingly, issues with regards to the fitting of the dual guns causes them to turn slower due to issues with the turntable and weight. Additionally, reduces the ships speed by roughly a knot. Costs 1 PP to refit, takes 1 season to complete. Shipbuild cost same as original.

Pompey Magnus Class Battleship:Arguably a miniature battleship, one that could be payed with whatever is in ones pocket compared to the price of true battleships, the Pompey Magnus class is...arguably mediocre. Yet, mediocracy in many numbers is a good thing. The ship is quite well armored and armed, though in part due to this it is slightly overweight, which could cause problems. Only costs 7/2, takes 6 seasons to build.
Refits of the Pompey Magnus Class:
Belt and Magazine Adjustments (BMA): Modification utilizing the overweight nature of the ship to cut down on the lower section of the belt in order to add a inch of armor to the rest of it, along with modification to the magazine in order to add another inch to the turret's armor.
QF Refit (QFR): A simple replacement of the eligible smaller caliber guns to quick fire variants. Costs 1 PP to refit, takes 1 season to complete. Shipbuild cost same as original.
Modernized (MOD): Modifications to the Belt and magazine, alongside the smaller caliber guns. Costs 1 PP to refit, takes 1 season to complete. Shipbuild cost same as original.

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Spoiler: Unassigned Captains (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Ships (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Land Instillation's, Schools, & Dock Size (click to show/hide)

Kashyyk · « **Reply #235 on:** February 22, 2022, 08:52:15 am »

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I've done an alternative formatting for our ships, would appreciate thoughts. In the process, I noticed Capt. Ursmaro Battaglia of the CL Virgil is still wounded, and none of our Battleships progressed in construction. I'm assuming that's an oversight. If so we can knock one off of each of those numbers.

Anyway, assuming that is the case, we have 11 Cruisers and 2 Battleships operational this turn (although 8 Cruisers are still at factory-default. If we want to Refit any, the two still in repairs seem like the best options), and we can expect another Cruiser and the first two Battleships to start working up next turn. At worst, we'll have to deal with a new crop of Veenland ships before the rest of ours are finished, but I think we can hold out.

Kashyyk · « **Reply #236 on:** February 26, 2022, 04:25:43 am »

Okay. We've got three ships completing at the end of this turn, and five the turn after. If we want a new ship design, we should've started it last turn, but we could do one now too.

I also think we should revisit this.

Quote from: Wireless Telegraphy Research Grant

It has come to the attention of the Magna Mongadizafra Imperial College that a number of researchers in the homelands are working on ways to send telegraph messages via the electromagnetic spectrum. It's an experimental technology right now, but if we can entice these individuals to our island the product of their work will be a massive boon to our naval communications.

Quote from: Boat Vox

1 die to progress Torpedos: (1) Kashyyk
Design: Wireless Telegraphy Research Grant: (1) Kashyyk

Use 4 dice only: (1) Kashyyk

TricMagic · « **Reply #237 on:** February 26, 2022, 07:28:56 pm »

Quote from: Boat Vox

1 die to progress Torpedos: (2) Kashyyk, TricMagic
Design: Wireless Telegraphy Research Grant: (2) Kashyyk, TricMagic

Use 4 dice only: (2) Kashyyk, TricMagic

Jilladilla · « **Reply #238 on:** February 27, 2022, 09:02:07 pm »

Honestly, just want the torpedoes to get finished. With our battle fleet starting to come back online, being able to respond in kind to any torpedo runs will be important.

Quote from: Boat Vox

1 die to progress Torpedos: (2) Kashyyk, TricMagic
2 dice to progress Torpedoes: (1) Nemonole
Design: Wireless Telegraphy Research Grant: (2) Kashyyk, TricMagic

Use 4 dice only: (2) Kashyyk, TricMagic

Madman198237 · « **Reply #239 on:** February 27, 2022, 09:07:28 pm »

Quote from: Boat Vox

1 die to progress Torpedos: (2) Kashyyk, TricMagic
2 dice to progress Torpedoes: (2) Nemonole, Madman
Design: Wireless Telegraphy Research Grant: (2) Kashyyk, TricMagic

Use 4 dice only: (2) Kashyyk, TricMagic

Can't decide what else to do at the moment except prep a design of some sort that uses our dockyards expansion (properly large armored cruiser? variant of our battleship that is a bit closer to being a proper battleship?), so I'll just follow on with the 2 dice vote to get those torpedoes.

As soon as we have them, our cruisers use them, which massively boosts their firepower and killing ability.

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